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You, like many others, have been taken in by this scam. What you have posted is a bogus press release put on the internet by the so-called victim. As the other memebers of his family have since made clear, Carl and David Glatzel
have devised a get rich quick scheme
by suing everybody associated with the book because they were written out of the film contract. It is known as a conspiracy to commit fraud and is currently under investigation by the Connecticut State Police. It should also be mentioned that Carl Glatzel is a apparently a career criminal and this is not his first attempt at public fraud. The upshot is that the book is true and these guys are just a couple of digital liars.

^ And I'm sure you'll be more than willing to back up that accusation with some evidence such as a court docket.

Craig -> I guess we must wait for the court proceedings. I don't think you will get an answer on this one.

many other cases are also being looked into, the Maurice case in Ma. is just one, I think a Big surprise is going to come out on this one, watch and see.....

This person lance willis likes to hide behide a pc and i like the part how the state police is looking in to this (fraud)what a lie. and the part david and i where written out of the film contract. not true we have the papers to prove it can't forget the part am A CAREER CRIMINAL again a lie (you people) you know who you are get a life and every one else can ck out www.geocities.com/devilbustedinct the law suit is there to ck out thank you carl glatzel

Carl Glatzel is known around CT as a scumbag in every sense of the word. He's white teash and so is the rest of his family. Fortunate enough for he ans his brother, the time has come where they can make some money. Good for you guys....you were such victims and all

thank you for all the nice compliments.this is exactly what we are talking about we are not here to sling mud.but there are a few jealous people(we know who you are tom thumb)we are not going to continue to write negative things back and forth.this is a story about the truth.and not lies like you once told.craig leslie made a comment are you willing to back up your accusations?we are. oh by the way the trial will be starting soon i am sure you will be there and you will have a nice surprise.(the trains a comin so get off the tracks)thank you ,carl,david glatzel

Just an update for you all yes the lawsuit is a big scam I'am related to Carl Glatel he is my older brother . he came to my house in NC
and begged me to sign on to this lawsuit he said and I quote all you have to do is say the it never happened and the warrens made it all up and we can get $15,million.
I told him, he is insane and never come back to my house. then his attorney tried to threaten me and I told him I would turn him over to the CT bar assoc. and I havent heard from him either.

Alan Glatzel

Alan -> So are you stating that your younger "brother" was possessed by demons????

Yes he was !!!!
Carls attorney, went on to say he suffered delusions and seizures
But never said the name of a docter or a medical treatment did they?
but when Carl did a radio show on the subject he could not anwser the questions because they made it up .
In the most current reports wrote by Francis Richards (real name) Corey Francis onwer of CGFX LLC. a company
Carl Glatzel and Corey Francis formed
with the intent to commit this type of fraud. it now reads David was doing it for attention.
they changed the story as time goes on look it up its on the web.

This is Judith Glatzel. I am Alans mother.I am sorry the whole world has to know are personal business.Alan please just stop the lies you write on the computer. If any one is possessed you are.Please do not call or ever come here again as long as you live after what you have done.Your father and I are sick over this and you just wont stop.We trusted our children and look what you have done.We were all hoodwinked by ed and lorraine and you and Debbie are doing the lying for lorraine and you know it and we know you stole jasons life insurance policy too.You trying to protect a murderer.You are sick so please just stop it. How much more can you hurt our family.You, Debbie and Cheyenne and your children are never welcome here again and we don’t want to see your faces ever again as long as you live.Stop the lies Alan.I hope everyone knows what you have done. The courts will show the truth.And yes Alan this is your mother and you are a troublemaker and a liar and no longer part of this family. Thank you, Judith Glatzel.

this is getting to be really sick and am sorry the people that read this has to see it but it is what it is .and yes my mom has her own email now. im sure alan what going to write that is not her but it is. what my mother said is true and the court will prove it.what alan said before is a LIE.ALL OF IT.yes i was at his house but i was working clearing his back yard and have the pictures to prove it (witch he has never paid me for but he dont tell you THAT!) and keep in mine debbie is p*****off that they are not getting nothing no more for the book or movie deal and that is why there is all the mud sling going on . in the END EVERYONE will see. (THE TRAINS A COMIN SO GET OFF THE TRACKS) CARL GLATZEL

To the readers of this website My Mother Judith Glatzel did not write that article. she does not even own a computer .nor does she even know how to turn one on. what you were reading was a letter written by Carl or Corey. I 'am going to testify in court on behalf of Lorraine Warren
Ed and Lorriane never harmed our family when the book was orginally written my parents signed contracts and releases for said book to be published. It is and always will be a True story .the questions I brought up on my last post where never answered where they? I would be happy to prove it by taking a polygraph test.
Why doesnt someone ask Carl or Corey to do the same . I sure they will decline. And as Carl would say THE TRAINS A COMIN SO GET OFF THE TRACKS) Carl Just make sure your on train and its a one way ticket ....

It appears someone is doing a bit of Ghost writing under the assumed alias of "Judith Glatzel". I find it highly improbable that she found this obscure forum and posted precisely 1 Hour and 4 minutes before you.

Rosh -> To the best of our knowledge these people including Judith are using valid email addresses not hotmail etc which are easy to set-up by anyone. I cannot help, but think that this whole affair is rather sad, and a blot on research, and investigation. We will see what the courts decide.

Again this is the same as many others the Warrens investigated, the Maurice case in Ma. is a prime example. The Roman Catholic Church has never worked with the Warrens. They used Robert McKenna a Catholic priest that left the chuch before he was deflocked after vatican II. The Warrens are FRAUDS that did everything for money. They cornered the paranormal field, like Barnun and Baily did with their circus.

I agree with Rosh and his remark about how unrealistice it is for Judith to respond to a forum on a random website. It's also entertaining to see the poor quality of writing coming from Carl, followed by a response from "Judith" written equally as poor (just a coincidence right? Wouldn't be Carl writing that.) Parents don't usually use internet forums to cut realations with their family.

The only one posessed here is Carl thinking that it's ok to write "THE TRAINS A COMIN SO GET OFF THE TRACKS" more than one time. Carl, you are a scum bag! Your dysfunctional is going to continue to become more and more dysfunctional, and this is the way to do it. You are owed something, that is for certain. It isn't a few million though. You're a white trash mess and this idea/scam/skeam will not work. Your side of the story is as unrealistic as the original story itself. However, this is a great plan for your whole family to make a bigger mess out of a washed up story.

And it amazes me that you had not read that book until now, being a novel about your family. That says something right there.

V.C.

If you do a google search on Carl+Glatzel this site shows up in the top two search items so it is not as obscure as those who might hate Carl would like.

Did anyone stop to think that Carl was with his mother? It says right there in the article he lives there. Phony or not...people here set quite a poor example of what dysfucntion really is.

Maybe the two are living together. I still have little belief that a mother is going to cut ties with her son on a public forum.

Carl is quoted in many articles as saying his family was dysfuctional, and a family in court with one another equals dysfunctional to me. Poor example nothing.

I once saw a Ed Warren wearing a Ghost Busters shirt. I thought that was a little bit strange.

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After reading all the blogs and messages Carl Glatzel and his boyfriend Corey Francis? have plastered all over the internet, it is clear their whole act is a scam. Someone somewhere called Glatzel a "professional victim", and that's exactly what's going on here. On the other hand, reading all these rantings and ravings and over-the-top accusations put out by this pair, I think it's pretty probable we're dealing with people who might well be mentally ill, and the best thing would be to ignore them. From what I can tell Carl seems pretty unstable, while his friend or collaborator is just exploiting him. Which makes the idea of them doing this for money make total sense. As for Lorraine Warren, I have read in at least a dozen places that she absolutely denies being a demonologist and claims to only be a psychic instead. Furthermore, the fact that she is (allegedly) represented by the William Morris Agency only lends credibility to her. After twenty or thirty years in this business, you'd expect her to be with the best. If she was a fake or a fraud they would have dropped her like a hot rock. In fact if you asked, you'd probably find out that Lorraine Warren is the victim of two or three 'celebrity scams' a year and what's being put out here is just the latest one.

Excuse me, but who are the authors of this book? Sure seems like that's calling yourself a demonologist to me!

What about the books The Demonologist and Werewolf: A story of demonic possession where, in both books, both Ed and Lorraine are described as demonologists. There is probebly more but those are the only two on my bookshelf.

Heh. I was thinking, Sue and Matthew from this blog are really well known in paranormal circles in Canada and I know they did some TV and radio shows. Are they listed with a talent agency? I thought all you needed to be listed with an agency was bookings to make them money? Doesn't William Morris still have Vaudville animal acts on their lists?

as i said before this is what they (alan,debbie,lorraine etc.) are trying to do turn this whole thing into a circus talking bad about me saying my mom dont have an email let it go. just make SURE you guys are there for court "if you all have proof dont worry about it " but.....i know you dont and all the negative stuff you write will be taken with a grain of salt. this will be the last post i write till court. you know what i always say at the end of my post....but instead of getting off the tracks. please stay on them. let the train do its job.....

Such desperate talk.
Very tragic. Very sad.
I stick with what I said in the first place.
Goodbye.

Matt and Sue I love you more than ever, I have been into ghost stories, and seeking truth not fiction since as long as I can remember.
I have only this to say on the above...The Warren's have cast many a shadow of doubt upon their work over the years and I would be hesitant to trust their views on anything without additional reinforcing proof.
Just my views.
You have a new reader on this blog.

I think anyone entering into a courtroom battle, whether to defend or accuse, would be well advised by any lawyer NOT to indulge in flame-baiting exercises online, but to instead keep their hands away from keyboards and save it for the judge to hear. Anything written online can potentially jeopardise the outcome of a legal action, and can most certainly be brought into it as evidence.

Sue and Matthew went to great pains in the original report about simply to do just that - report, and not express opinion. They've continued in the comments to exercise far more care than evidenced by some other posters, irrespective of who those other posters may or may not be.

I'm personally far more horrified by the rampant poor grammar and spelling in some of the comments above than I am by the tales being told, which are starting to look like script proposals for a crossover between 'The X Files' and 'The Jerry Springer Show'.

I thought the moderator intervention - presumably because an offensive, ugly comment was posted - was great, the best of its kind I've ever seen: clear, confident and with just the right wording for a put-down of those who can't be civil and resort to foul language and name-calling.

Great job, Sue and Matthew, of both reportage and intervention when necessary. x

I feel the readers of this forum
Would benefit from this. it is taken From CBS News not the X Files or Jerry Springer

(CBS) The Catholic Church has always believed in the idea of demonic possession -- of the fight, within the individual, between good and evil, says CBS News correspondent Mark Phillips.

The ancient ritual of trying to drive evil spirits formtortured souls was dramatically portrayed by Hollywood in "The Exorcist."

The Church, Phillips points out, would rather such graphic religious experiences took place privately.

When one Archbishop, Emanuel Malingo, began holding increasingly popular public exorcisms, the Vatican made him stop. The exorcism scenes weren't pretty, Phillips observes.

There is evidence, though, that the practice of exorcism is experiencing a revival, according to the Washington Post.

Particularly, says Phillips, among the faithful in Poland, so many of whom came to Rome to mourn the death of Pope John Paul II. Demand for exorcism has apparently risen so high, 70 priests now perform the rite there, double the number of five years ago. And the Church is planning a dedicated exorcism center.

Some blame the demand on the residue of the communist years. Father Jerome Hall, of the Washington Theological Union, says, "Once the oppressive regime falls, there's still a residue of pain, of betrayal, of anxiety, of evil. ... Some people who grew up in Eastern Europe would say, 'That's no wonder.' "

But numbers are said to be up elsewhere, as well, reports Phillips. In Italy, 350 trained exorcists are now working. There were only 20 ten years ago.

Italian exorcist Father Gabriele Nanni says, "For the sinners, who want to conquer entities or the devil himself, for them, the situation is very dangerous."

Even in the United States, Phillips notes, one-in-ten Catholics, according to a recent survey, now says they've either submitted to or witnessed an exorcism.

For many, it seems, the ancient battle between good and evil continues today, Phillips concludes.

What's behind the apparent rise in exorcisms?

Father Thomas Williams, Dean of Theology at the Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University in Rome and a CBS News religion consultant, told co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez on The Early Show Tuesday, "There may be two reasons. One is that there's increased interest in the occult, even in Satanism. Where I live in Italy, Satanic worship is actually on the rise. And this is true in a lot of places in Europe. And the second reason I think is because people are less careful. Honestly, they maybe pray less. They play around with things they shouldn't play with, and then they get into trouble. ... Anyone can be possessed, but I think you really have to open yourself up to it. You have to be un-careful. And I think the spiritual demons, or bad angels, do exist, and I think it's an extreme thing, but it happens sometimes.

How do you know that the person is possessed, and you're not just dealing with a psychological problem?

"Well," Williams responded, "that's the biggest challenge we have. Because obviously, many things that in the past that were considered demonic possession or demonic influence were really just diseases or psychological problems. So, priests work closely with psychologists to try to ascertain the real nature of the pathology or of the problem before performing an exorcism. But prayer never hurts. So if you're just praying for a person, you're not gonna do them any damage."

There are specific signs that a person is possessed, Williams continued; "Three typical signs are speaking strange languages, a language a person's never had any access to whatsoever, and they just become fluent in it. And often accompanied by a change of voice that doesn't even sound like the person. Another is knowledge of secret things. For example, saying things that the person has no way of knowing. And a third is superhuman strength, the ability to lift objects and move things."

What's the process of exorcism like? Is it similar to what the movie portrayed?

"Well, it's similar," Williams replied. "It's mostly based on prayer and reading of sacred scripture, but there are other things used like holy water, a crucifix, etc. It's a long process. It begins with simply praying over the person and asking the person to pray with you. Often, they won't; if there really is some sort of demonic presence there, they will not do that. It's a lot of prayer until there's some sort of manifestation on the part of the demon, if there is one.

I hear that Linda Blair is testifying at the Glatzel/Warren trial.

Oh yeah. National Lampoons is putting out the "Devil in Ct" film. They haven't really done much since 'Vacation 1' and I'm not expecting very much from this film either.

Chevy Chase is playing Carl though.

That is true. Chevy Chase will be returning to the big screen as the infamous Carl Glatzel. Throughout the film he will be making his crazy Chevy Chase faces, which parallels the original story perfectly because we won't know if Chevy is possessed or just 'CRAZY'.

Kenny Loggins will be doing the soundtrack, in true 80s fashion. Can't wait for that.

Chevy has other commitments.
Bozo does Carl.

Andy Griffith IS Ed warren.
Elvira as Lorraine for sure.

Charlotte Rae aka Mrs. Garrett, was originally cast for Lorraine Warren. Andy Dick will play each of the 43 demons. Lords knows that guy can be scary.

Danny Bonaduce was going to play Carl, but the casting crew felt that Danny wasn't quite aggressive enough.

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First Name : carl
URL :
Comment : Hey C***knocker nice job lets sink all there ships. The train is coming so get off the tracks .
Sounds like revenge and deception
not a victim and his author

Wow.
That's pretty damning stuff.
Where did you get it ?
If it's true you just proved their whole act really is a scam.
They're outright liars.
What's a Corey?

As someone who is a member of a board that Carl & his author post at often I feel I am lucky enough to know quite a bit about what is going on in this situation.

First of all if you read the letter above it says & I quote:

"Carl figures that if
everyone is going to get rich off a lie based on him, not
only is he going to play hardball and do everything in his
power to expose it all, but he rightfully wishes to make
money as well, as he know realizes after reading the book how
many jobs he has lost over the last two decades once people
learned his last name and his relation to the DEMON MURDER
CASE."

That does not say that it is all about the "money". It says he wants to expose the truth and also get what he deserves after what has been done to him & his name.

What I actually find most amusing about the rants and mudslinging ALAN GLATZEL keeps posting about Carl and his author is he NEVER mentions that his brother David, you know the one who was supposedly possessed by 42 demons is an EQUAL part of the lawsuit.

Also that the basis of the lawsuit is about invasion of privacy & slander. From what I have read Carl & David approached all the defendents of the lawsuit and simply requested their (Carl & David) right to privacy & stop using their names in books, lectures, DVD's and in a possible upcoming motion picture. Only when this request was denied they went forth with a lawsuit. How else were they suppose to stop the story that they say is not true & quite frankly is not something I think anyone would want being said about them? Please remember if this was a get rich quick scam all Carl & David had to do was sign on the dotted line for a movie! Not go through a court battle. Make sense??????

Looks to me that if Alan is right & it is all a scam then he has nothing to worry about and should stop acting like a child bringing a family fued into blog's like this and let the courts decide.

Oh yes, one more thing if I did not make it clear in my original post. In Carl & David's initial request of having their right to privacy be upheld they were essentially asking the people who HAVE BEEN making money off their names for over two decades to stop making money off their names. Big surprise that they were denied!

Second thing for all you intelligent readers to think about, if Carl & David Glatzel refused to sign on the dotted line for a major motion picture that would essentially make them rich, that left a few Glatzel's who wouldn't get the chance to sign their names. If you know what I am saying...

Oh yeah. I'm sure that's why he lost so many jobs - because his family was once involved in a case of supposed possession. Wouldn't have anything to do with his way of handling business, would it?

This is for (sb) I do not sling mud I'm exposing the truth. There is a difference... please review the following quotes Made by Corey

to play hardball and do everything in his
power to expose it all, but he rightfully wishes to make
money as well, as he know realizes after reading the book how
many jobs he has lost over the last two decades (please see State of CT website) public record

(http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DspParty.asp)


I am a social worker and amateur magician
in CT. ( I guess twisting a balloon into a poodle makes you a (paranormal researcher)


However, no one knows my true identity at this time (What is he hiding)





Carl has his lawyers ready, and I convinced him that this
time that the lunacy that the Warrens call their ‘work’ needs
to be exposed ( Its good to see corey controlling carl?) some would say exploiting him



While I am not a published author or professional writer,
(well at least thats true)
Carl Jr., who I find to be a honest and decent man has
already made it clear to them in negotiations that I will be
his author regardless of what they say or offer.

Corey I can see you want money clearly in this quote.
Thanks for making it so plain



Looks to me that if Alan is right & it is all a scam then he has nothing to worry about (I'm Not worried)
and should stop acting like a child bringing a family fued into blog's like this and let the courts decide

If telling the truth is acting like a child then I guess I will always be a kid at Heart

Alan,

I am having a hard time figuring out what truth you are trying to expose.

Let's see:


"I am a social worker and amateur magician
in CT. ( I guess twisting a balloon into a poodle makes you a (paranormal researcher)"

In all the information I have read on this matter I have NEVER come across Mr. Richards calling himself "a paranormal researcher" Can you show me where he has? He has never called himself anything but the writer for the book project and a friend to Carl, David and your parents. And making fun of his being an amatuer magician has nothing to do with this.



"Carl has his lawyers ready, and I convinced him that this
time that the lunacy that the Warrens call their ‘work’ needs
to be exposed ( Its good to see corey controlling carl?) some would say exploiting him"

If convincing someone of something that many people believe to be the case (i.e. the Warren's "work" being not so believable) is controlling them, Damn I guess we could say you are "controlling" or trying to "exploit" some people here too.




"However, no one knows my true identity at this time (What is he hiding)"

As he stated in his letter that you conviently left out, he chose a pen name as he has a family and is concerned for their well being. I completely respect his wishes. Being the "good Christian" you claim to be I would hope you would have done the same.



"While I am not a published author or professional writer,
(well at least thats true)
Carl Jr., who I find to be a honest and decent man has
already made it clear to them in negotiations that I will be
his author regardless of what they say or offer.

Corey I can see you want money clearly in this quote.
Thanks for making it so plain"



Alan, until someone has their first book published they are not a professional writer. Every writer is an unpublished writer at some point. And every book writer expects to get paid for their work. So what is your point?


My point is to say this. The point of the lawsuit is right to privacy & slander.

So let's just use a hypothectical story here to get my point across.

Alan, let's say I want to publish a story, make a movie, do lectures, etc...stating that you are gay for instance. I have other members of your family who will also say you are gay, even other people who have known you. These people even say they have witnessed things that would prove you are gay, although there is really no way to prove that they did in fact see anything. You wouldn't want that story to come out.
It wouldn't matter if you are gay or not.

Without your consent I have no right to publish a book, make a movie or lecture upon the subject of you being gay using your real name & calling it a true story. And if I did it anyway you would have every right to sue me.

The same goes for your brother's. It really doesn't matter if the Devil was in Connecticut or not. Your brother's have every right to not want their names being used in a story that they claim is untrue. And quite honestly shame on you for not being there for your brother's in this matter, if you have nothing to lose by them chosing to want to keep their privacy. Even if David was possessed & Carl was oppressed and the Warren's made them all better, they wanted to put it behind them and be left alone. Sadly the people who wanted to continue to make money off them made that impossible.

SB, or Carl, or Francis, whatever you name is.
Credibility of the witness and the accuser is the issue as I see, reading through it. And yes, in every form, calling oneself a magician when they are a balloon clown isn't helping ones credibility now is it?

Looks like a career criminal look for easy gravy here in this lawsuit. Ambulance chaser and the likes of these people should themselves all be sued or jailed.

SB) Pen name Corey or Francis
Whatever PC your hiding behind
Your becoming more and more Transparent. That's the important thing.
All I have done is exposed the truth.
And in respect to your latest quote
Also note you used the word we in your quote. showing that your not an individual writing a blog
Transparency seems to be the only trick your good at

Damn I guess we could say you are "controlling" or trying to "exploit" some people here too.
But you see I'm not the one trying to commit fraud or make millions here am I .
As a matter of fact I have never made a penny off of this story .
Nor do I care to. Its about a true story and I want all readers to know that. No one in the world ever knew who Carl Glatzel was until you tagged every paranormal web site in the world. with the intend to Smear the Warrens. Helping to fuel your lawsuit. Its very sad to see you stoop to these levels . I also had a chance to view your parody on the Warrens . Talk about childish huh?
I guess when all of your work is based on LIES you do need to try to cover your tracks don't you.

All this presumes that the case is a lie.
I'm not convinced that's true.
I think the lie is coming from the other side. Big time.
If you look at it clearly, it is almost impossible for this case to be a hoax.
All you have is one big over-the-top accusation from one "disaffected" member of the family vs the real facts.
To begin with, it was the family who released this story to the press in the first place.
And when they did the Church was right there in the middle of it and at least two of the priests were in the papers back then admitting it was true. I know, I lived in Ridgefield at the time. I remember.
After that hundreds of reporters from all over the world came to Connecticut and there was a sharkfeed over this story that lasted for over a year both in the newspapers and on television. And every one of them tried to poke holes in the case back then and couldn't.
After that came a tell-all book from a major publisher that was based (allegedly) on first person interviews taken directly from the family involved - plus others.
After that major television shows were done on the case, some of which even featured members of Carl's family insisting over and over again in full color that these events actually happened. And never once, in all this time, did anyone involved in the case ever object to its airing. Or contradict themselves, or ever hint any falsity was involved.
But MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, it is too much of a stretch to believe that the law departments of all these big newspapers, of all these tv stations and their news departments, of all these publishers, and of all these major television networks, would have let this story go by if even one sentence of it was untrue. It just doesn't happen. None of them are stupid, and none of them are kind. They may make mistakes once in a while ... but not all of them at the same time about the very same story. It just doesn't wash. I don't care what the story was about, someone, somewhere, would have caught it. And to this very moment not one of them has caught it.
So in the end what you really have is the world press, major television networks, major publishers, major law departments, Carls own family, the Warrens, the author, and even the Catholic Church, backing the truth of the case, versus ONE lone member of the family (with a very shady reputation) suddenly claiming the case is untrue, and then for money. Something fishy here! Especially given the links his very own brother just posted, which show IN THEIR OWN WORDS that the whole thing is a deliberate premeditated scam. Sorry Carl, but 'you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.' The joke is over. You lose.

The huge problem with America is that anyone can take a gamble and sue another, yet only be out attorney fees (if that), if it fails. How about a loser pays all system? That would add more RISK to these types of frivolous law-suites, and suddenly the attorneys and the gold digging clients they represent will actually have something heavy to lose. Maybe just maybe they will think before taking a risk they themselves can lose on big time. So our society has created these criminals, who will apparently turn on their own family members in seeking their fortunes.

Also, I think the ones accused should counter sue to make an example of these people.
What are they expecting? To land millions in court from Lorrianes a "non-profit" org? Or a best selling book.

Heres a thought boys:
"Try to get money the old fashioned way. Honesty and hard work, not at the expense of others like some street gangsta."

Has anyone here thought that no matter who wants to make money off of who, sane people have not believed in devils since the middle ages.

That is why major papers do not cover this lawsuit in my opinion. Who cares, most grown-up people laugh at the idea of demon possession.

The vast majority do not even know who the Warrens are unless they are into paranormal research and even then most everyone under 50 follows TAPS, which are nothing like the Warrens again in my opinion.

Let the law decide this case.

Magician?
Where I come from that's code for satanist.
So here we have, together, a probable satanist + someone from a possessed family.
Together they constanly make accusations.
The Bible tells us the devil is both an accuser and a liar.
Practically every post about this case uses the word "lie" in it or is full of accusations.
If you ask me (and I happen to be sane Todd) the devil in connecticut is alive and well and speaking through these two.

Alan,

"SB) Pen name Corey or Francis
Whatever PC your hiding behind
Your becoming more and more Transparent. That's the important thing."

Please do not insult the intelligence of the readers here by acusing anyone who contridicts you and pokes holes in your claims as being Carl, Mr. Francis or anyone else.

I am not and never have been anyone mentioned above. Nor have I ever met any member of the Glatzel family or Mr. Richards. I have simply had the pleasure of engaging in mature and intelligent chat with them at another forum and have familiarized myself with the Devil Busted in Connecticut Website.


"Also note you used the word we in your quote. showing that your not an individual writing a blog"

When I said "we" I was referring to those of us who are reading this blog, not that I am more than one person. Although I have wished I could be two places at one time before, we all know that is not humanly possible.

As for the rest of what you said, it makes no sense to me so I have nothing to reply about it.

Alan, I think it is obvious that we are just going to have to agree to disagree as you really have nothing to say that makes any of your accusations against myself, both your brother's or Mr. Francis true. I am happy to hear that you do not want to make a penny off this story because quite honestly with David and Carl putting the brakes on any further use of their names in any form of media it looks like you never will.

So I wish you the best of luck in your crusade and I will anxiously await what the courts decide.

Take care & God Bless.

Take care & God Bless.

How phony can you get?

I've been tracking and following the Warrens work since the early 70's. Ed and Lorraine picked up in the paranormal world, where Barnum and Bailey left off, with the circus circuit. They exploited for money, nothing more nothing less, and they continue to, today. Reserve your seat today for Lorraines Halloween dinner, only $90.00 per seat, and you get to hear the same old cases from the 60's and 70's, nothing ever new. You can visit their museum in the basement for $35.00 per shot, but dont touch anything you might take a visitor home, they claim. You might want to double check the museum, I think I heard their nephew, John Zaffis, took over as curator.As far as the exorcisms, I have seen many of their tapes and a 7th grade drama class could put on a better show. The Catholic Church has NEVER worked with the Warrens, they use self appointed Bishops that left the Catholic Church, Robert McKenna, Rev. Moon, etc. etc. This case is going to expose the scams the Warrens employed to exploit scared souls looking for any type of help, Mark my words.......Dont bother checking out the Warrens web site, they shut it down,EXCEPT, unless you want to book a presentation or want to buy tickets to one of thier Haunted circle jerks..........

I heard that the devil also has a lawsuit against the Warrens. He’ll be in court with his lawyer as well. Oh wait. I forgot. The devil doesn’t exist you idiots!

I’d imagine since Photoshop is now available to the masses, the Warrens don’t turn many heads when presenting their manipulated photographs at seminars. The Civil War soldier was always a favorite. I believe that’s done using the stamp tool.

The Bacon's comin' so get off the tracks!

To sb:

Just writing a book does not make you an author.
Integrity goes with it.
Pimping a lie for Carl Glatzel lacks integrity.
Pimping a lie off of someone else work also makes you a criminal.
"Mr. Francis," and all the other personalities he's displayed on this website, suffers from delusions of grandeur.
He, like all the other 'authors' of his stature, will eventually wind up in a cage, where he belongs.

Actually our logs track all IP numbers and sb has not posted under other names here.

We do know when people are posting from the same computer with different names, and providing different email addresses, and in all fairness that is not the case with sb.

Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

Pauline,

Very True , I'm glad to see readers speaking the truth. seeing them for what they really are.
fraud, scam artist char·la·tan
1 : QUACK 2
2 : one making usually showy pretenses to knowledge or ability : FRAUD , FAKER

Watch Out for the Warren Family & Followers......Google: John Zaffis, David Considine(youll love this one, it has Haunted Bus Rides), and most of all Tony Spera, the Son-in-Law...............I wouldnt have this crew investigate a "Haunted Hemorrhoid" your A** may never come back, unless you PAY A PRICE......

Magician?
Where I come from that's code for satanist.

Um, no...

As a rule, magicians tend to be a big part of the organised "so-called" sceptics (or the American spelling, skeptics,) which are not "sceptics" as such, but non-believers or arm-chair debunkers... to be a sceptic implies you are willing to look at evidence and are "doubting" things... not denying them out of hand.

Many magicians, knowing "slight of hand" and being what can only be termed "Houdini Marks" wish to expose what they see as "fraud"... like their acts... although they call their acts "illusions" so they get upset when they see people selling what they do as "legitimate", and many are part of groups like the now dead CSICOP (now called Crime Scene Investigations) and the like.

The reason I used the term "Houdini Marks" is using a wrestling/carney term for someone who's fallen for a swindle... a "mark"... Houdini did expose mediums doing fraudulent "seances" and had an act devoted to exposing their tricks... but what many magicians seem to be unaware of is that Houdini did believe in psychic abilities and the paranormal... he only went after the outright frauds... people like CSI blanket anything marked "paranormal" and have even morphed into a very vocal atheist (humanist) group.

There are very few exceptions to this rule, but to set the record straight, magician and "satanist" are not truly synonymous in any way, shape, or form as a rule.

In fact, as stated, most magicians would decry "Satan" as a manufactured entity contrived to part the marks (religious people) from their money by carneys (clergy-folk).

PLEASE NOTE: I do not subscribe to this view... only showing the data as I understand it. I remain neutral AND agnostic about pretty much everything... a legitimate sceptic, if you will.

Watch Out for the Warren Family & Followers......Google: John Zaffis, David Considine(youll love this one, it has Haunted Bus Rides), and most of all Tony Spera, the Son-in-Law...............I wouldnt have this crew investigate a "Haunted Hemorrhoid" your A** may never come back, unless you PAY A PRICE......

David Considine(youll love this one, it has Haunted Bus Rides)

WHAT KIND OF BUS!?!

This could be semi-gimmick infringement!

...although I have no plans or want to run "bus tours"... especially haunted ones.

Sorry for the repost, my computer just went demonic......Scary...Wow, Im freaked,

Found this on the web thought it would make you go hmmmmmmmmmm



The Devil Busted In Connecticut
xxxx xxxxx Paranormal Radio Show is pleased to announce.

The Devil Busted in Connecticut - (Part one of a series) guess what they never did it again

This is the unheard story of how the Warrens operate; hunting down dysfunctional families with serious earth bound issues then preying upon their darkest fears, manipulating the already stressed and vulnerable minds of those present, and ultimately convincing the burdened families they can still come ahead by contracting a book or movie deal.

the one person who replied had this to say

What a crock this show was.
On one side you had a professional victim whining(Carl) about something in his past assisted by his PR man who spoke for him,(cant use his real name we will call him Dick Zucker) and on the other side you had the show's moderators buying into their whole sob story. No contrary opinions were allowed. Just one hour of accusations and name calling. One of the "guests" didn't even bother to show up. Lots of prepared answers, and loads of contradictions in their argument. Very fishy. Very phoney. What sounded interesting was really an infomercial. Represents the down side of Internet radio. Buyer beware!

In Carl's book there were no Demons
So he said and when his first attempt in court failed the legal team (cant use there real names) we will call them Pinkie and the Brain
made it into a Privacy and libel problem so its not an unheard story about Ed & Lorraine Hunting people down now is it???????
I must point out David had to be promised Money by CGFX LLC.in order to join the suit because with just Carl on it went no where.
And before anyone has a chance to say anything I'm in the process of getting a copy to post on the web of the original suit filed by Carl only David was not even part of it .He is added now
it was only after that failed they needed a second family member to sign on that's when Carl showed up at my house and Begged me to join in with him and I quote (All you have to say is that David was never possessed and the warrens made it all up and we can get 15 Million dollars) GUESS WHAT
I didn't sign . So If that makes me family outcast oh well, you can pick your friends not your family


And SB you do not need to respond.
thats something we can agree on.

How come we dont hear about Arne and Debbie, Arent they the center of the Evil.......

Dan,
You dont hear about Arne and Debbie
simply because the only ones who consider them to be the center of evil. Is Carl and PR man (AKA) Dick Zucker.

Quote:
"
it was only after that failed they needed a second family member to sign on that's when Carl showed up at my house and Begged me to join in with him and I quote (All you have to say is that David was never possessed and the warrens made it all up and we can get 15 Million dollars) GUESS WHAT
I didn't sign ."

Whaaat? Every MAN doesn't have a price?

Why am I reminded of Judas who sold out the messiah for a few pieces of silver?
It is all about character.

Some people just aren't going to take an unethical path when trying to live in the world.

This will be a good one to see finished so I can not lose faith in our countries judicial system.
(If the they win)

This is another Warren case DISMISSED.. by TRUE investigative work involving, History and Geneology. The Warren's have a book on this site in Ct. Their Hunting grounds...........

Doug
It is now time for me to jump in here, not only as the only person whom has ever SERIOUSLY studied the history of Dudleytown, and published a researched book upon the subject, but also as a published HISTORIAN, and a published GENEALOGIST.

YOU MUST BE KIDDING. Henry VIII interested in the occult "and was expanding his power at any cost.." (implying a use of the occult in doing so) and "His obsession ultimately had a connection to the historical Dudley family and the evolution of the "Curse"? " You realize, of course, that I can, and will, tear that to shreds?????

Where do you want me to begin? With Henry? With Robert Dudley (who had NO Male offspring that lived)? Just tell me where.

First, as I intend to include your quote in my updated edition of The Legend of Dudleytown, and will use it in in ANY interview by media sources, WILL YOU PLEASE CITE ME THE SOURCES of where you obtained your information??

Secondly, could you explain "We have simply been able to fill in many interesting details that no one else has ever written about." Exactly what details these are? I know you now have a copy of my book....all the DETAILS are explained there. Pray tell, WHAT HAVE I MISSED?

Thirdly, as a HISTORIAN, I am quite perplexed by your statement: "I think we all know that "history" is an interpretation of events and often one interpretation of events serves those in power." NO, history is ALSO a recording of TOWN RECORDS, cemetery records, diaries, military records, newspaper obituaries, local histories, and other things. Doug....Dudleytown did NOT happen that long ago. Mary Cheney Greeley's obit is STILL in the NY Times for YOU to read! Henry VIII is STILL on SHOWTIME!!!! and in the movies. Come on guy! This IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE! I FIGURED IT OUT FROM TEXAS!

I'm willing to listen to all your "new" information, fascinated by how I could have missed it during all my college, research, and writing.

PLEASE! Enlighten me!

Rev Gary Dudley.

PS. Ever heard of Frank Peretti? Just wondering. Your plot sure sounds like some of his books. Just a thought.

Are we talking about Dudley from Different Strokes?

This has not even gone to court yet and they have changed there own stories 3 times.

I think they need a new PR person?

Notice No one talks of medical treatment or medications?
In Carl's first press release he states the following




Having a younger brother who suffered from delusions and seizures was hard enough for Carl Glatzel Jr., but then came the priests and a well-known ghost-hunting couple who deemed then-11-year-old David Glatzel to be possessed by demons.

In there lawsuit they state this
Behavioral problems sounds a lot different than delusions and seizures

9. During his childhood, David Glatzel suffered from behavioral problems and learning disabilities, and may have been mentally ill. From 1979 until 1982, he suffered from several episodes of increased symptoms.

Then we have this bit of information
from one of the many tagged websites
Cant have a SMEAR campaign if no one knows about it

David Glatzel – “It wasn’t possession, I wanted attention. The Warrens told me I was possessed and how I was supposed to act, so I did. I fed into it. If I could have really seen the future, how come I couldn’t see the Warrens would try to screw us twice?”

Sorry to say no magic hear
no slight of hand
no smoke and mirrors
But who knows after this goes court I might be able to pull a couple of con-artist out of a hat

This Lawsuit is going down faster than the Titanic its got a lot more holes in it.



I would first like to commend you on your open letters to the
Warrens and others concerning Amityville. I find them to be
expertly written and a great source of information.

I am writing because I am faced with a similar problem and
was hoping you might have some thoughts or information on it.

I am currently working with a family member (Notice the word member was used not MEMBERS) remember folks It takes at least 2 for a lawsuit
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

who was exploited
in one of the Warren’s books, THE DEVIL IN CONNECTICUT back
in 1983. I assume you are at least familiar with this tale of
“possession” and “the Devil made me do it” ploy that was most
likely sparked by Amityville when it their attempt in court
didn’t turn full circle.

I kindly ask that before you read any further, please visit
the site I had quickly made in order to show certain
producers in Hollywood that this family member was quite
serious in not only setting the story straight, but exposing
the Warrens as well.

Again, I kindly ask you to visit the following site before
returning to this email:

http://geocities.com/devilbustedinct

Carl originally posted a review under the reprint of the
DEVIL IN CT at Amazon where he gave it one star,(actually he gave 5 stars)
called it a bunch of lies, and offered his email for anyone who wanted
the truth. Naturally, he was bombarded. I was one who
bombarded him with one email telling him about my involvement
with the Warrens and my efforts to expose them as frauds for
over ten years.

Carl, ultimately took his post off,

NO he didn't I saw it there today.

learning that even when
he tried telling the truth simply to clear his name, people
didn’t believe him, called him a disgruntled family member
who is crying “Hoax!” because he didn’t get his ‘fair share,’
or people simply stating that he was a liar and not even he
said he was.

One thing lead to another and Carl and I became Business partners He
supplied me with dozens of photographs and audio tapes he
took from the attic in the home in which they all lived
(which his still his legal address) which I have scanned and
captured. What they reveal is truly frightening but has
nothing to do with demons.

A certain group in Hollywood, who has purchased the movie
rights from author Gerald Brittle, and have now come across a
major stumbling block as they have a binding contract to
begin filming THE DEVIL IN CONNECTICUT this fall. That
obstacle is naturally us.

While I am not a published author or professional writer,
Carl Jr., who I find to be a honest and decent man (wink wink) has
already made it clear to them in negotiations that I will be
his author regardless of what they say or offer. I guess he
likes me and liked what he read at my out of date website. We
have had numerous conference calls with the producers who now
see a far more interesting side to this story; one of abuse,
greed, and brainwashing and are offering us every deal they
can think of to allow the picture to get made.

I have contracts on my desk I don’t even understand (I have a
lawyer looking them over) and I don’t know what anyone’s
intention is but Carl’s. Carl is successful and does not need
money. I recently gave him a copy of the book which he only
glanced through once when he was 18, and when he finished it
a day later he was “mummified.” He was also naturally hurt,
angered, and in utter disbelief. It all became clear to him
why the past 27 years have been an uphill struggle for him,
after all, he is the most nasty character in the book, as he
was “oppressed” by demons and the “Devil was working through
him to break down the family.” He was only a minor at the
time.

Carl has his lawyers ready, and I convinced him that this
time that the lunacy that the Warrens call their ‘work’ needs
to be exposed, he has just the golden material to do just
that which I am know is custody of. There are no copies or
duplicates anywhere.

But because I posted this on the internet
The whole world will know (by the way that includes the legal system of the United States)

Hollywood is offering him a large percentage of the films
gross if he allows it to be shot, and then they promise to
get he and I a publisher to release a book exposing the whole
thing after the film has made his profits as a sort of
“spoiler”. Either they want to double dip or just shut him up
is unclear. It is all very confusing

Except to anyone who can read.

and I have entered a
world I am not so familiar with. One thing is for sure, they
are interested enough to be in contact with us at least every
other day.

The drama unfolds everyday. I receive hate mail (mostly from
his sister, (Lie)

She wrote him one time asking for
The photos and tape recordings Her and I made .(WHY) you might ask? because they do not belong to him.

who besides the Warren(s) is the head puppeteer).
Even as of yesterday, there are sneaky tactics being devised
to discredit Carl

Public Record so SNEAKY Thats why there Called PUBLIC

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DspParty.asp


and has torn the family apart once again.
It is simply unbelievable what is happening.

I guess what I am asking you Scott, is if you have any
information, advice, or evidence that would help expose the
Warrens (other than the obvious). Carl simply wants to clear
his name, and while the web site may look like a book pitch
for simply trying to “cash in,” I hope you can see the
underlying importance of actually having a mainstream book
expose the Warrens and their likes. Carl figures that if
everyone is going to get rich off a lie based on him, not
only is he going to play hardball and do everything in his
power to expose it all, but he rightfully wishes to make
money as well, as he know realizes after reading the book how
many jobs he has lost over the last two decades once people
learned his last name and his relation to the DEMON MURDER
CASE.

Incidentally, I did have the good fortune of speaking with
Mr. Kaplan shortly before his passing about the Warrens. He
had some very useful information and I found him to be an
intelligent, polite man with a good sense of humor. If he
were alive today I bet he would be onboard with this!

Finding people with your insight are difficult. I have
already interview several people for my research (including
the Chief Police Detective in Brookfield who knows the family
and what happened).

I apologize if this letter seems to be going nowhere, I am
just a little confused about what I am even asking you for. I
would welcome the opportunity to converse with you either
through email or via telephone. I will gladly leave you my
number below if you have the oppurtunity and would like to
call.

Naturally, I needed a pen name, so I am Francis Richards. My
real name is Dick Zucker I am a xxxxxx worker and amateur xxxxxxx
in CT. However, no one knows my true identity at this time as
I have a family and am a little concerned about having dead
animals show up on my doorstep or worse, dealing with Runaway trains while being on the middle of tracks I politely ask that
in any correspondence you have, I hope you will keep me
anonymous or simply refer to me as Francis.

Thank you Scott for reading, and I hope to hear from you
soon. ANYTHING you have to offer would be beneficial in our
endeavor.

In the meantime, you may visit a parody site on the Warrens I
have had up for years at
http://www.geocities.com/fingerjack/demonologists.html .
Maybe you will get a laugh out of it. or maybe The Warrens might counter sue me who knows?

You may also if you wish read an essay on magic and the
paranormal I wrote at:
http://www.geocities.com/fingerjack/paranormal.html

Again, thank you for reading and I look forward to hearing
from you. Please keep up the good work.

My best regards,

With all due respect to the good Rev. Dudley, a quick search on google shows you as another WARRENS hater so, one can assume you side with the ones who are suing.

So can't really pay attention to him.

Next!

Let's hear from more people who think Carl should just be on Jerry Springer.

Dudleytown,
Me and my husband might take a tour, just to see if the cops try to run us out like some trespassers.
Looks liek REv. Dudley is another book monger.

Jane


Carl would not make any public appearances without his PR man
Dick Zucker so you would have to get them both to go on Jerry Springer.
And then it has to approved by the legal team of Pinkie and the Brain .
Because nobody wants to tip there hand in this case. So there going by the book on this one , Maybe you have read it ? The Little Train that Could.
And for God's sakes please stay off the tracks a train's a coming

For people wanting more information
on this case .

I find this website of great value

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/GetParty.asp

Its real easy to use type in a name and bingo your there.

The lawsuit will seek damages from the three defendants in excess of $15,000,000 he said.

“The No. 1 thing in this case is my client runs a business. Throughout his life he has had to be associated with this case,” said Nolan. “He wants to disassociate himself from the demonic possession. He wants to make it clear that all of that is foolish.”

YES EVERYONE KNOWS WHO THE FOOL IS

A complaint filed by Pinkie on behalf of Carl Glatzel on Sept. 21 claims that David Glatzel was afflicted with mental illness during his childhood, which caused him to experience hallucinations and delusions. From 1979 until 1982, David Glatzel suffered from several episodes of increased symptoms, the complaint claims, which caused severe trauma in the Glatzel family.

This bit of news from
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/19688/the-devil-in-connecticut

I guess there PR man is running out of websites to advertise on.
As they say desperate times require desperate measures



Carl Glatzel Jr.
Age: 11
Brookfield, Connecticut
Exploited by psychic investigators
1981

Exorcism

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Glatzel
Age: 11
Brookfield, Connecticut
Exploited by psychic investigators
1981

Exorcism

http://whatstheharm.net/exorcisms.html

Alan, I have read the book half way through at the age of 13 and it has such a deep real impact on me I thought the devil was after me. I couldnt sleep for weeks and I wore rosemary beads to help protect me from possesion. I remember the fear at nightand it seemed genuine. Finally the fear went away after 2-3weeks and I swore never to read that book again. But at the age of thiirty I wanted to conquer my only fear as a child so I picked up the book and stared reading it. It is a very good story and I feel that it is a true story not as scary as when I was 13 but very captivating. I feel very sad it didnt make the family closer and instead tore you apart. I would feel David would owe a heck of alot of gratitude to the the warrens for saving his life I think he has forgot the fearand terror the beast put him through!!! Money isnt everything but on the other hand it doesnt look right Lorraine Warren has tours for money at her house.I still believe in demons and angels and I think this was real Taps on scifi is realing prooving that ghosts really exist. Alan I have a quetionn where is the rental house in newtown? Has somebody ever poured holy water down that well? Let me know and I'll do it with the permission of the people in the house hopefully? If it is real I bet its still in newport and probably influencing carl. Carl if your story is the truth why do you got to come off like a jerk man this is your blood its not to late to show goodness and whichever side is telling the lie Im sure the family will support your standing up the last moment before it is final in court..Remember america is forgiving to if you are sincere. I have a hunch Alan is telling the truth but both make good agruements I think carl does it the wrong way though. Alan if you could tell me as much as youcan about the newtown address Id be gratiful..Remember GET OFF THE WELL CAUSE THE HOLY WATERS COMING...

Rich,

Carl and his PR man have been making life miserable lately
but its nothing we cant handle.
There smear campaign is almost over. We our very optimistic
that the courts can see what they have done and dismiss there claims
The Warrens and the Catholic church were instrumental with the help they gave to my family .
when Carl first came to my house and begged my wife and I to join
him in his lawsuit . I knew something was wrong I told him to leave and never return .
and he has not been back . on the other hand I have heard from Pinkie and the Brain and I have responded to there threats accordingly.
Thanks for your support

Alan

Alan, Thankyou for responding you really seem like an outstanding person by the way you conduct yourself here and the way you were presented in the book. By the way did you achieve the white collar job as your parents projected? I havent finished the book quite in yet Im at the start of chapter 18. I read to my wife a chapter a or 2 a night but hopefully I could keep in touch with you through this to ask quetions if the lawsuit allows? But in all sincerness fight the good fight and have faith that your family will heal I think David probably deep down knows better and will come around..With Carl it might take an act of god but god loves Carl just as much as the rest of us. Bless you alan and keep in touch its an honor to chat with you sir...

Please visit the following website
Where David Glatzel and family Tells all about this true story
www.newdominion.com/index.asp?id=688

TV : Documentary


Where Demons Dwell: The year is 1980. Debbie Glatzel and Arne Johnson are about to start a new life together in a new home in Connecticut. When Debbie's 12-year-old brother David helps them with the move, he has a terrifying encounter with an old man who has hooves for feet. Eventually, the old man transforms into a horned demon and begins to stalk David and the others. David is often punched and thrown about by this unseen entity. The situation escalates as the demon repeatedly possesses David for short periods of time. His possession is confirmed by a priest and a team of paranormal investigators. David becomes more and more violent and must be exorcised to save his soul.

Hey thanks for that Alan I avtually seen the show on youtube. Did anybody ever determine why the demon attacked your family was it because Debbie played with the ouija board or was it a curse put on David or was just wrong place wrong time?

Rich in Oregon -> That is an interesting question, thank you :) I too would be interested in hearing the answer.

Rich and Sue,
In reference to your question,
Did anybody ever determine why the demon attacked your family was it because Debbie played with the ouija board or was it a curse put on David or was just wrong place wrong time?
the easiest answer could be all of the above. I don't really know?
I would have been very happy if this never happened at all. To be honest with you. but it did and like all things in life you learn from it and move on. But I will say I have not touched a Ouija board since this happened. ITS NOT A TOY.
So did one thing factor in more than another? your guess is as good as mine. But I can tell you what we were dealing with was truly DEMONIC and that's why the Catholic Church became so involved and after witnessing several exorcisms performed by the church. it truly lets you know That there is a GOD.

In case anyone is interested in following the scam, I mean lawsuit
SORRY Must have been a keyboard malfunction.
you can use this link to the State of Connecticut's PUBLIC RECORDS
database

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DispDetail.asp?DocNum=DBD-CV-08-4008461-S

Alan -> Thank you for answering these questions. :)

Thanks Alan I check this site and the one that shows the court case quite often. Hopefully June 2nd it will finally get going. I have a feeling news outlets will be covering this one. It seems alot of people are atheist now days but Alan you make a good point about if there is evil theres got to be good so my wife and I are going to church tonite:)

Alan I watched the youtube video you left a link to and am bit confused. You said david tells his story but the only ones in the video are arnie and debbie. was david cut out because he is suing the warrens? Are you supporting david or are you against him? I am not sure who is on which side.With all the name calling between you and carl it is hard to believe either of you. Your name calling and childish behavior make you look as foolish as your brother and not that of a Chrisitan.You should really look at the things you have both said and ask yourself how damaged you all really are. I hope the truth comes out whatever it is because to me you both have about zero credibility. God knows the truth and will be the final judge in the end.Thank you and alan can you please leave links that work

James,

In reference to your question,
David was an active participant in the New Dominion production
he signed a legal binding contract and was compensated
by new Dominion productions for the use of his name in said production
stating that the story The Devil in Connecticut was a TRUE STORY and that the occurrences
that took place were real . I not against any of my family members .
However I feel what there doing at present is VERY WRONG and I don't agree with it.
So I will defend the truth........ I will be in Court . As I said in an earlier post Carl begged
me to join him in this whole lawsuit stating that I would be rich $15,000,000.00 worth
and all I had to do was LIE and say the Ed & Lorraine Warren made up the whole story
and that it never happened . Maybe I'm wrong for believing in things like integrity and honor.
Its also my opinion that The PR man and the legal team involved has promised them things that cant be delivered .
Remember the old saying the grass always looks greener on the other side.
AND IN CASE I LEAVE A LINK THAT DOES NOT WORK....... SORRY try
www.google.com
Thanks

Alan

Thank you Alan for your reply but I am still confused about some things if you would be kind enough to answer. Don’t take it as a personal attack, but you raise many questions that don’t make any sense to me. I read the book years and years ago but don’t have a copy anymore, but the youtube special seemed very different from the book from what I remember. I was wondering if you could answer some of these questions…and please know I am not taking sides, just trying to understand.

But I can tell you what we were dealing with was truly DEMONIC and that's why the Catholic Church became so involved and after witnessing several exorcisms performed by the church.

I don’t understand this at all. The Catholic Church denies an exorcism was ever granted. How would the church become involved AFTER witnessing exorcisms by the church? This makes no sense to me. Could you read your sentence again and explain?

You say David knows he was possessed but was tricked and paid off by Carl and Francis so he could get 15 million dollars. You said Carl offered you 15 million, and Carl wants 15 million. Are they suing for 45 million? I don’t get it. And as SB or whoever said, if it was about money why didn’t they just go ahead and make the movie?

I know Carl and Francis say they have proof that things in the book are untrue and Ed and Loraine have said for may years that they have undeniable proof of the devil and could proove in the court of law. Why aren’t they excited to have their chance after complaining for twenty five years that they were deined the chance? They say they have photos and videos of the exorcisms but that they can never show them. Why? Isn’t this the perfect time to shut up Carl and his Francis and whoever else they have?

I have been a fan of the warrens for many years, but a lot of stuff that I read really strains their credibility. Do you believe as Francis pointed out that Loraine has had psychic conversations with a wounded bigfoot or that the photo of GI Joe in the famous Amityville moose photo was positively identified as the psychic image of Ronald Dafeo (sp). It was a GI joe Doll! How about statements made by author Ray Garton all over the internet saying that they are frauds and charlatans of the worst kind. No disrespect but wouldn’t he know better that you? Another book Exorcisng demons in the land of plenty has a whole chapter on the fraud of the warrens and it is indeed very damaging. While I don’t really agree with carl his website certainly has some information that should be considered. There is a lot of bad talk about the warrens these days and that new show paranormal state really doesn’t help much. It is ridiculous. Do you vouch for everything she says?

Another thing I don’t get is that why anyone in your family would want attention for such a thing. Why would arnie want the world to know he killed a man or the devil did. What about his family? What good would the book do any of them except paint them in a bad light and get them money…what was the motiv for putting the book out again except for to hype the movie they are making. Even to someone as open minded as me it seems that there goal was to make money…or?

How could you not understand that carl may have a legitimate reason for not wanting his name involved in something like this. Does he not deserve privacy? Isnt that why he is suing? I cant say that I blame him and seeing the things he writes its clear there is some damge done to him..obviously some anger issues, but I see you do to. How can you claim to be a devout catholic and act the way you do and say the nasty things you do? Carl obviouisly has some problems but what is your excuse?

What is your role in the court case? I thought you had nothing to do with it yet you say you will be there?

Why isn’t David speaking about this to defend carl?

I read in several places that Francis Richards the PR guy is a Satanist. How do you know that? And why would he send you a copy of a letter like the one you posted and after comparing them I saw you changed a lot of what he said. I find that to be the same as lying at quite honestly hurts your credibility.

Carl, if you are reading this..could you please say what type of evidence you have against the warrens. I am very curious to see what both sides say they have for evidence. I am hoping the warrens will share their proof and prove to everyone they have been right all along and if not…they sure have a lot to answer for. I am curious to see what happens and am still sure that God will judge fairly.

Thank you alan and carl and good luck to whoever is telling the truth. I hope to attend the trial.

How could you not understand that carl may have a legitimate reason for not wanting his name involved in something like this.

If carl wanted his privacy as he claims he did? why would he and his PR man Dick Zucker start a smear campaign???????????????????

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Or could it be that he was influenced by Francis Richards to do this ?????????????????
Makes you think Huh?

James,

With a little web surfing I think this will answer all your questions?
And in this there is no memtion of David. ??? Talk only of Carl and
(pr man)
Dear Scott,

I would first like to commend you on your open letters to the
Warrens and others concerning Amityville. I find them to be
expertly written and a great source of information.

I am writing because I am faced with a similar problem and
was hoping you might have some thoughts or information on it.

I am currently working with a family member who was exploited
in one of the Warren’s books, THE DEVIL IN CONNECTICUT back
in 1983. I assume you are at least familiar with this tale of
“possession” and “the Devil made me do it” ploy that was most
likely sparked by Amityville when it their attempt in court
didn’t turn full circle.

I kindly ask that before you read any further, please visit
the site I had quickly made in order to show certain
producers in Hollywood that this family member was quite
serious in not only setting the story straight, but exposing
the Warrens as well.

Again, I kindly ask you to visit the following site before
returning to this email:

http://geocities.com/devilbustedinct

Carl originally posted a review under the reprint of the
DEVIL IN CT at Amazon where he gave it one star, called it a
bunch of lies, and offered his email for anyone who wanted
the truth. Naturally, he was bombarded. I was one who
bombarded him with one email telling him about my involvement
with the Warrens and my efforts to expose them as frauds for
over ten years.

Carl, ultimately took his post off, learning that even when
he tried telling the truth simply to clear his name, people
didn’t believe him, called him a disgruntled family member
who is crying “Hoax!” because he didn’t get his ‘fair share,’
or people simply stating that he was a liar and not even he
said he was.

One thing lead to another and Carl and I became friends. He
supplied me with dozens of photographs and audio tapes he
took from the attic in the home in which they all lived
(which his still his legal address) which I have scanned and
captured. What they reveal is truly frightening but has
nothing to do with demons.

A certain group in Hollywood, who has purchased the movie
rights from author Gerald Brittle, and have now come across a
major stumbling block as they have a binding contract to
begin filming THE DEVIL IN CONNECTICUT this fall. That
obstacle is naturally us.

While I am not a published author or professional writer,
Carl Jr., who I find to be a honest and decent man has
already made it clear to them in negotiations that I will be
his author regardless of what they say or offer. I guess he
likes me and liked what he read at my out of date website. We
have had numerous conference calls with the producers who now
see a far more interesting side to this story; one of abuse,
greed, and brainwashing and are offering us every deal they
can think of to allow the picture to get made.

I have contracts on my desk I don’t even understand (I have a
lawyer looking them over) and I don’t know what anyone’s
intention is but Carl’s. Carl is successful and does not need
money. I recently gave him a copy of the book which he only
glanced through once when he was 18, and when he finished it
a day later he was “mummified.” He was also naturally hurt,
angered, and in utter disbelief. It all became clear to him
why the past 27 years have been an uphill struggle for him,
after all, he is the most nasty character in the book, as he
was “oppressed” by demons and the “Devil was working through
him to break down the family.” He was only a minor at the
time.

Carl has his lawyers ready, and I convinced him that this
time that the lunacy that the Warrens call their ‘work’ needs
to be exposed, he has just the golden material to do just
that which I am know is custody of. There are no copies or
duplicates anywhere.

Hollywood is offering him a large percentage of the films
gross if he allows it to be shot, and then they promise to
get he and I a publisher to release a book exposing the whole
thing after the film has made his profits as a sort of
“spoiler”. Either they want to double dip or just shut him up
is unclear. It is all very confusing and I have entered a
world I am not so familiar with. One thing is for sure, they
are interested enough to be in contact with us at least every
other day.

The drama unfolds everyday. I receive hate mail (mostly from
his sister, who besides the Warren(s) is the head puppeteer).
Even as of yesterday, there are sneaky tactics being devised
to discredit Carl and has torn the family apart once again.
It is simply unbelievable what is happening.

I guess what I am asking you Scott, is if you have any
information, advice, or evidence that would help expose the
Warrens (other than the obvious). Carl simply wants to clear
his name, and while the web site may look like a book pitch
for simply trying to “cash in,” I hope you can see the
underlying importance of actually having a mainstream book
expose the Warrens and their likes. Carl figures that if
everyone is going to get rich off a lie based on him, not
only is he going to play hardball and do everything in his
power to expose it all, but he rightfully wishes to make
money as well, as he know realizes after reading the book how
many jobs he has lost over the last two decades once people
learned his last name and his relation to the DEMON MURDER
CASE.

Incidentally, I did have the good fortune of speaking with
Mr. Kaplan shortly before his passing about the Warrens. He
had some very useful information and I found him to be an
intelligent, polite man with a good sense of humor. If he
were alive today I bet he would be onboard with this!

Finding people with your insight are difficult. I have
already interview several people for my research (including
the Chief Police Detective in Brookfield who knows the family
and what happened).

I apologize if this letter seems to be going nowhere, I am
just a little confused about what I am even asking you for. I
would welcome the opportunity to converse with you either
through email or via telephone. I will gladly leave you my
number below if you have the oppurtunity and would like to
call.

Naturally, I needed a pen name, so I am Francis Richards. My
real name is xxxxx . I am a social worker and amateur magician
in CT. However, no one knows my true identity at this time as
I have a family and am a little concerned about having dead
animals show up on my doorstep or worse, dealing with Satan
possessed killers who swore to “kill again,” and stand to
lose a lot of money if we tip their hand. I politely ask that
in any correspondence you have, I hope you will keep me
anonymous or simply refer to me as Francis.

Thank you Scott for reading, and I hope to hear from you
soon. ANYTHING you have to offer would be beneficial in our
endeavor.

In the meantime, you may visit a parody site on the Warrens I
have had up for years at
http://www.geocities.com/fingerjack/demonologists.html .
Maybe you will get a laugh out of it.

You may also if you wish read an essay on magic and the
paranormal I wrote at:
http://www.geocities.com/fingerjack/paranormal.html

Again, thank you for reading and I look forward to hearing
from you. Please keep up the good work.

My best regards,

xxxxx
555-555-5555

James,

In reference to your questions,

Thank you Alan for your reply but I am still confused about some things if you would be kind enough to answer. Don't take it as a personal attack, but you raise many questions that don't make any sense to me. I read the book years and years ago but don't have a copy anymore, but the youtube special seemed very different from the book from what I remember. I was wondering if you could answer some of these questions…and please know I am not taking sides, just trying to understand.

But I can tell you what we were dealing with was truly DEMONIC and that's why the Catholic Church became so involved and after witnessing several exorcisms performed by the church.

I don't understand this at all. The Catholic Church denies an exorcism was ever granted. How would the church become involved AFTER witnessing exorcisms by the church? This makes no sense to me. Could you read your sentence again and explain?

MY FAMILY REQUESTED HELP FROM THE LOCAL CATHOLIC CHURCH IN JULY 1980 WHEN THE OUTBREAK STARTED. THESE PRIESTS STARTED OUT FROM OUR LOCAL RCC, ST. JOSEPH'S, IN BROOKFIELD, WHO REFERRED THE MATTER ON TO THE DIOCESE OF BRIDGEPORT. A TOTAL OF 6 PRIESTS WERE ULTIMATELY INVOLVED. IT WAS THE CHURCH WHO BROUGHT THE WARRENS IN AS EXPERT CONSULTANTS. AS FOR EXORCISMS, THEY OCCURRED, BOTH IN BROOKFIELD AND IN MONTREAL. HOW THE CHURCH CHOOSES TO PARSE THEIR LANGUAGE IS UP TO THEM. THEY NEVERTHELESS OCCURRED AND THAT PROOF EXISTS. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DOESN'T OWN UP TO ANY EXORCISMS SO I DON'T EXPECT THEM TO DO THAT HERE. AT LEAST NOT IN PUBLIC.

You say David knows he was possessed but was tricked and paid off by Carl and Francis so he could get 15 million dollars. You said Carl offered you 15 million, and Carl wants 15 million. Are they suing for 45 million? I don't get it. And as SB or whoever said, if it was about money why didn't they just go ahead and make the movie?



THE ANSWER IS $15 MILLION. PERIOD. I PROBABLY DIDN'T SAY IT RIGHT. MY BROTHER CARL CALLED THE WM MORRIS AGENCY PRETENDING TO BE MY FATHER, WHO TOLD HIM THAT SUCH A FILM MIGHT BRING IN $15M AT LEAST. THAT'S WHERE CARL GOT THE FIGURE FROM. AS FOR THE MOVIE, THE AUTHOR KILLED THE PROJECT. AFTER WHAT WE'VE ALL PUT HIM THROUGH HE DOESN'T WANT ANY MORE TO DO WITH IT. AND I DON'T BLAME HIM.


I know Carl and Francis say they have proof that things in the book are untrue and Ed and Loraine have said for may years that they have undeniable proof of the devil and could prove in the court of law. Why aren't they excited to have their chance after complaining for twenty five years that they were deined the chance? They say they have photos and videos of the exorcisms but that they can never show them. Why? Isn't this the perfect time to shut up Carl and his Francis and whoever else they have?


MAYBE IT IS, BUT THIS CASE ISN'T REALLY ABOUT THE TRUTH OF THE CASE, IT'S ABOUT FRAUD. THE BOOK, THE STORY, IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. EVERY MEMBER OF MY FAMILY TESTIFIED TO THAT FACT IN WRITING, NOT ONCE BUT TWICE IN SIGNED LEGAL DOCUMENTS. WHETHER THEY'LL ADMIT IT OR NOT, THE CASE IS ALSO ON RECORD AT THE DIOCESE OF BRIDGEPORT, AND ALL THE PRIESTS CERTIFIED THAT IT IS TRUE. THE ONLY ONES WHO SAY IT ISN'T TRUE ARE CARL AND HIS FRIEND COREY FRANCIS WHO CREATED THIS GET RICH QUICK SCHEME. FOR LORRAINE TO HAVE TO PROVE THE TRUTH, WHICH ALREADY EXISTS, MEANS SHE'D HAVE TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON A SHOW TRIAL JUST TO ANSWER CARL'S LIES. SHE'S DEALT WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN HER LIFE. IF EVERYONE PULLED THE SAME TRICK THERE'D BE NO END TO IT. THAT'S NOT HOW PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC EYE HANDLE MATTERS. BY THE WAY ED WARREN IS NOW DEAD. THESE TWO ARE SIMPLY PICKING ON AN 81 YEAR OLD WOMAN. AND IN "PUNISHMENT" THEY WANT TO STEAL HER HOUSE. THESE TWO ARE A REAL CLASS ACT.


I have been a fan of the warrens for many years, but a lot of stuff that I read really strains their credibility. Do you believe as Francis pointed out that Loraine has had psychic conversations with a wounded bigfoot or that the photo of GI Joe in the famous Amityville moose photo was positively identified as the psychic image of Ronald Dafeo (sp). It was a GI Joe Doll! How about statements made by author Ray Garton all over the Internet saying that they are frauds and charlatans of the worst kind. No disrespect but wouldn't he know better that you? Another book Exorcising demons in the land of plenty has a whole chapter on the fraud of the warrens and it is indeed very damaging. While I don't really agree with Carl his web site certainly has some information that should be considered. There is a lot of bad talk about the warrens these days and that new show paranormal state really doesn't help much. It is ridiculous. Do you vouch for everything she says?


I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON THE WARRENS. IF YOU CARE SO MUCH WHY DON'T YOU PUT THESE QUESTIONS TO HER ON THEIR WEBSITE?
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WOUNDED BIGFOOTS AND GIVEN THE DEEP STUFF SHE USUALLY DEALS WITH, IT SOUNDS LIKE PURE CRAP. THE AMITYVILLE MOOSE PHOTO IN THE WARRENS BOOK CLEARLY SHOWS PADRE PIO, NOT RONALD DAFEO.
I DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT RAY GARTON. IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S GOT A GRUDGE. EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC EYE HAS THEIR DETRACTORS. WHY NOT THE WARRENS? NOT ONLY ARE THE THINGS YOU SAY BASED ON URBAN LEGAND OR RUMOR, A LOT OF CRITICS OF THE WARRENS AND SPIRITS IN GENERAL ARE ATHEISTS WHO ATTACK ANYONE WHO SPEAKS UP IN THE NAME OF GOD. THAT'S GOT A LOT TO DO WITH IT TOO.


Another thing I don't get is that why anyone in your family would want attention for such a thing. Why would Arne want the world to know he killed a man or the devil did. What about his family? What good would the book do any of them except paint them in a bad light and get them money…what was the motive for putting the book out again except for to hype the movie they are making. Even to someone as open minded as me it seems that there goal was to make money…or?


BACK WHEN THIS CASE BROKE OUT MY FAMILY MADE IT CLEAR THEY WANTED THE WORLD TO KNOW THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN. THAT THE DEVIL IS REAL AND IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE. WE WERE VICTIMS OUT OF THE BLUE. WE LITERALLY WENT THROUGH HELL IN 1980-1981. AND WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH HELL. NOWADAYS, ESPECIALLY IN BROOKFIELD, PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW SAY THE CASE DIDN'T HAPPEN OR WASN'T REAL. WE ALL WANTED TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. IT'S VERY INSULTING. WHEN THE AUTHOR TOLD US THAT A CHANCE HAD COME UP TO MAKE THE BOOK INTO A MOVIE WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD WITH IT FOR THAT VERY REASON. NOT FOR MONEY. BUT FOR OUR OWN REPUTATION. AND BY THE WAY, ARNE DIDN'T KILL ANYONE. HE'D LIKE THAT KNOWN TOO. HE WAS JUST AS MUCH A VICTIM AS ALL OF US WERE. ARNE IS A DECENT MAN. HE WAS THEN AND HE STILL IS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MONEY, YOU'RE USING CARL'S LANGUAGE NOT MINE. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT MONEY FOR US.


How could you not understand that Carl may have a legitimate reason for not wanting his name involved in something like this. Does he not deserve privacy? Isn't that why he is suing? I cant say that I blame him and seeing the things he writes its clear there is some damage done to him..obviously some anger issues, but I see you do to. How can you claim to be a devout catholic and act the way you do and say the nasty things you do? Carl obviously has some problems but what is your excuse?


READ THE BOOK. THE BOOK IS NOT ABOUT CARL. HE'S HARDLY MENTIONED. IN ORDER TO MAKE HIS LIE SOUND TRUE HE MADE HIMSELF THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. CARL HAS GROWN UP TO BE A CROOK. HE'S VIRTUALLY DESTROYED OUR WHOLE FAMILY SINGLE HANDED. HE HAS NO REPUTATION TO DEFEND. HE HAS A RAP SHEET AS LONG AS YOUR ARM. THE WHOLE COURT CASE IS A SCAM TO GET MONEY. CARL EXCELS AT FRAUD. THIS CASE IS JUST HIS LATEST. HE WORKED IT OUT WITH SOME WARREN HATER CALLED COREY FRANCIS AND CONNED A LAW FIRM TO GO ALONG WITH IT. THEIR WHOLE EFFORT IS TO TURN THE TRUTH INTO A LIE AND IF THEY COULD DO THAT THEY'D BE RICH. IT'S ALL ONE BIG PACKAGE. THE DEVIL IS A LIAR. CARL IS A LIAR. THE CASE IS A LIE. IF THEY CAN CON THE LAW SYSTEM TO OFFICIALLY CERTIFY THAT THE CASE IS A LIE THEN THEY'D BE IN HOG HEAVEN. BEING A CHRISTIAN MEANS YOU STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH. I AM STANDING UP FOR THE TRUTH. WOULDN'T YOU? EVEN CHRIST CAST OUT SWINE.


What is your role in the court case? I thought you had nothing to do with it yet you say you will be there?


I WOULD TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF THE TRUTH. SO WOULD THE REST OF US. CARL AND HIS FRIEND ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CLAIM THE CASE IS UNTRUE. BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY TRIAL. THAT'S CARL'S LANGUAGE AGAIN . IT'S ALL PART OF THE BIG LIE. THE FACT IS THEIR GOOSE IS ALREADY COOKED. IF YOU REALLY WANT A SHOW GO TO ANY OF THE OTHER COURT CASES CARL IS INVOLVED IN. PEOPLE ARE SUING HIM ALL THE TIME. HE'S A CON MAN. HE DOES THIS TO EVERYONE. THIS IS NOTHING NEW . http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/GetParty.asp


Why isn't David speaking about this to defend Carl?


CARL'S LAW FIRM TOLD HIM THAT THE CASE WOULDN'T BE VALID WITHOUT ANOTHER MEMBER OF OUR FAMILY JOINING IN. ALL OF US TOLD HIM TO GO TO HELL. EVEN DAVID. BUT THEN
CARL THREATENED DAVID TO JOIN HIM IN THIS CASE OR HE WOULD SEE TO IT THAT DAVID ENDED UP IN JAIL FOR WHATEVER HE'S GOT ON HIM. HE THREATENED HIM. CARL BASICALLY HATES DAVID. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE THINGS HE HAS DONE TO HIM - OR TO THE REST OF US. IN STRAIGHT TALK CARL COERCED DAVID TO JOIN. PLUS DAVID IS BROKE ALL THE TIME. SO THE PITCH TO HIM WAS EITHER GO TO JAIL OR GET RICH. HOW'S THAT FOR HONESTY ?



I read in several places that Francis Richards the PR guy is a Satanist. How do you know that? And why would he send you a copy of a letter like the one you posted and after comparing them I saw you changed a lot of what he said. I find that to be the same as lying at quite honestly hurts your credibility.


I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S A SATANIST. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A SATANIST IS. ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE ORIGINAL ENTITY IS STILL ACTIVE AND IS WORKING THROUGH BOTH OF THEM. WHAT'S WORSE?

Thanks

Alan

And in case anyone missed it
Does this look like the writings
of someone who wants there privacy?

But, I AM Carl Glatzel. Go ahead and google my name or find me on aol and email me to know the real truth. This book is the most bizarre I have ever read ...

And in case anyone missed it
Does this look like the writings
of someone who wants there privacy?

But, I AM Carl Glatzel. Go ahead and google my name or find me on aol and email me to know the real truth. This book is the most bizarre I have ever read ...

And in case anyone missed it
Does this look like the writings
of someone who wants there privacy?

But, I AM Carl Glatzel. Go ahead and google my name or find me on aol and email me to know the real truth. This book is the most bizarre I have ever read ...

Only 12 Days left before the Truth comes out!
Something tells me somebody is going to file for an Extension.

http://www.true-ghost-story.com/readarticle.php?article_id=79


I spoke with both Carl Jr. and David about this question, and we all agreed that it shall be the American judicial system, for better or worse, that will answer this question. In the midst of a lawsuit, there is only so much that can be said without tipping your hand. We simply cannot divulge specific information, but suffice to say, when all is said and done, the public will eventually know the truth.

I have received e-mails from many of you asking Why The lawsuit
I found this answer on the net.
It pretty much sums it up, in my opinion


SEE ABOVE LINK

In just 48 hours the world will be able to find out the truth behind this story.
But in my opinion pinkie and company will probable try to get it postponed
so they can work on a plan B. I will be in Danbury Connecticut that's where the court house is and keep you all updated.

Now I understand why this lawfirm was used



Attorney Gets Static for 'Twilight Zone' Rendition During Divorce Proceeding
By Douglas S. Malan
04-13-2006

Divorce lawyers, beware. Humming "The Twilight Zone" theme song to imply a client's ex-wife -- seated at the same table during a post-judgment divorce proceeding -- is mentally unstable will enrage not only the ex-wife but maybe the state's lawyer discipline police as well.

Just ask Torrington, Conn., attorney Steven H. Levy, of Febbroriello, Conti & Levy, who the Statewide Grievance Committee recently reprimanded for using "means that have no substantial purpose other than to embarrass, delay, or burden a third person," in violation of Rule 4.4 of the Connecticut Rules of Professional Conduct.

The complaint, filed by Gina Bunch, stemmed from a July 19, 2004, meeting at the Litchfield Superior Court after which Bunch described Levy as "sarcastic, rude and incredibly unprofessional."

Hostilities had been brewing since Bunch and her ex-husband, Joseph Fortuna, divorced nearly 10 years ago. At the 2004 hearing, the ex-spouses, their attorneys, the family services supervisor in Litchfield, Conn., and a guardian ad litem were sitting around a table in a small conference room. The discussion quickly turned heated.

"It was just chaos and too many people talking at one time," Nancy LaGanga, the family services supervisor, testified during the grievance hearing. "This particular case has been contentious for, you know, a long time." Guardian ad litem J. Michael Conyers added: "I think we were in the middle of a pretty hostile argument."

At one point that day, the issue of taking a psychological exam came up, and Bunch asked why there was the need for such a test. Bunch alleged that Levy said someone in the room had psychological problems before staring at her and then humming a few bars of "The Twilight Zone" theme song.

Bunch and her attorney, Brian McCormick of Ebersol & McCormick in Torrington, both testified at the grievance hearing that they heard Levy humming. Levy denied the allegations, and the other three people in the conference room testified that they never heard Levy humming. LaGanga acknowledged that she might not have heard Levy because of the commotion in the room.

Attorney Raymond Rubens, a member of the SGC reviewing committee, questioned Levy for responding to Bunch's question about the psychological exam.

" ... [N]ow that's why lawyers get into trouble," Rubens said during the grievance hearing. "She didn't ask it of you. It wasn't your call. You could have just passed it on to the hearing -- to the judge. That's what they pay judges for."

SKIN CREAM NOT CONDOMS

With regard to another allegation against Levy by Bunch, the committee also reprimanded Levy for violating Rule 4.1(1) for making "false statements of material fact."

In that incident, Bunch claimed that when she sought payment for medical expenses from her ex-husband, she presented a pharmacy receipt that included an item she said was skin cream for one of their children. Her ex-husband told Levy that the item actually was a package of condoms, and Levy said they would refuse to reimburse Bunch for the expense. During a lunch break, Bunch called the pharmacy and confirmed the skin cream purchase, but Levy maintained they were condoms.

The reviewing committee determined that Levy should have further investigated his client's claim before making the allegations against Bunch. "If that's the standard then you're going to reprimand me because, quite frankly, I will represent the interests of my client," Levy told the reviewing committee.

Another complaint filed by Bunch -- that Levy burned her hand with a cigarette -- was dismissed. The reviewing committee determined that the cigarette burn, which occurred as Levy was standing outside Superior Court and Bunch approached him from behind, was an accident; although, it said, Levy's apology to Bunch -- to the effect of "I'm sorry you ran into my cigarette" -- may have been "rude and boorish."

Since being admitted to the bar in 1984, Levy has had nine previous grievance complaints filed against him, and all of them were dismissed.

In an interview, Levy again denied the actions for which he was grieved, but added that he did not intend to pursue the matter

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Hey Alan I cant tell by the link you gave us, What happened in court last time you were there. Thanks Im really curious Rich

Rich In Oregon........ CASE UPDATE
Carl and PR man never came to court.
and from what I have been told, I cannot confirm this.
Carl's Attorney Gregory T Nolan
Was fired from Febbroriello, Conti & Levy is not representing him.
Attorney William Conti Showed up in court for Carl
Carl's side has asked for a continuance. (BIG SUPRISE THERE)
So Much for there proof and there multimillion dollar lawsuit.
they supposedly, wanted to Play Hardball, by what they wrote online.
LIKE I SAID IN MY FIRST POST
There Story Alone through the Valley
Or Devil Busted in Connecticut or whatever they want to call it next week
Is nothing but Lies and Deception .
GOOD WILL ALWAYS WIN OVER EVIEL

I need to say that it really wasn't a trial.
What happened on June 2 in Danbury CT was a "hearing."
Meaning that the court reviewed the case to see
if it was worthy of going to trial. And it wasn't.
The whole thing got found out.

Three days before, Carl's lawyer, Nolan, got fired
- by his own law firm - for filing this case.
On their big day Carl (and David) weren't
even allowed in the courtroom. A second lawyer stood in,
and he had absolutely no defense and the judge told him so.
The judge had a stack paperwork submitted by the other side
and I think even read the book.
She said "There is no violation of Connecticut statutes here.
There is no libel, there is no invasion of privacy."
Twice during the hearing she said, "You have no case."
The defense didn't even have to speak!
The whole fraud showed itself for what it was.

Carl and his cohort, Corey Francis, make all these lies and
accusations on the internet, including this big-long-lie at
the top of this website, but there is no accountability on
the internet. So they were able to snogger the public with false claims.
But when it came time for the truth to come out in a place
where accountability really mattered, they had no truth.
In fact the judge even made the comment that they were lucky
the other side hasn't filed a massive countersuit against them.

So after a year of lies and slanders all over the press and on
the web, the truth that came out is that their claim of "hoax"
was the real hoax after all.
Of course the press didn't print that part of the story. They
were too prejudiced. They were in it to create hysteria against
God and the Warrens. Period. So, even though you didn't (or couldn't)
read about it in the papers, the truth is that Carl really is a liar
and the book really is true.
In other words, the devil really did get busted in Connecticut!!!
Carl is a crook. The case was a fraud.
You wait, the whole bunchof them will be in jail soon. More is coming.
Real justice is going to happen. Carl and his friend Corey were
speaking
for the devil and the devil is none to happy. He'll take care of them
big time.
Watch it happen, because it can't be stopped now.

101.00 Mar 07 2008 MOT EXTEND TIME D No Granted Mar 24 2008 Hon. DAN SHABAN
102.00 Mar 26 2008 MOTION TO DISMISS D Yes Order Jul 01 2008 Hon. BARBARA SHEEDY
103.00 Mar 26 2008 SUPPORTING MEMORANDUM D Yes
104.00 May 30 2008 OPPOSING MEMORANDUM P No
105.00 Jun 27 2008 MOT EXTEND TIME-DSCOVERY D No
106.00 Jul 01 2008 MEMO OF DECISION-MOTION Court No Order Jul 01 2008 Hon. BARBARA SHEEDY
107.00 Jul 16 2008 MOTION TO REARGUE P No Denied Jul 18 2008 Hon. BARBARA SHEEDY
108.00 Jul 22 2008 OBJECTION TO MOTION D No

HERE IS AN ARTICLE WORTH READING,
AN INTERVIEW BY PEOPLE MAGAZINE. INTERVIEWING JUDITH GLATZEL
SO YOU CAN READ IT YOURSELF AND DECIDE PLEASE USE LINK ABOVE.

SO YES THE DEVIL IS BUSTED IN CONNECTICUT.

COURT UPDATE
IT IS OVER WHAT CARL AND COREY TOLD THE WORLD HAVE BEEN PROVEN UNTRUE BY THE COURT SYSTEM. THERE DONE SPREADING LIES



Oct 14 2008 MOTION FOR STAY Granted Oct 27 2008
Hon. DAN SHABAN

Alan:

I just discovered this blog, and read it in its entirety.

You may never read this, but I cannot say how happy I am that the truth came out. I read the book about two years ago, and I believed it without question. What happened to your family was horrible, and something no family should ever have to go through, but to have it portrayed "all over the internet" as a hoax, is just reprehensible on the part of Carl and his associates.

Corey Francis made it very clear in his own letter that he was out to get the Warrens, period. I wonder sometimes why it isn't people like him who are victims of the demonic, rather than good,loving families. But then, maybe people like him are so hateful they wouldn't be able to tell anyway.

It is so easy for people to dismiss the demonic; do they even realize how arrogant they are? Be a skeptic, that's fine, but do not - I think it was Matthew who said this in an earlier post - do NOT summarily dismiss it.

Your family was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about wanting to let people know that this can and does happen, right out of the blue as you say. It happened to my family from May to December of 2007. My 16-yr-old daughter was singled out for attack by a demonic entity; nothing as bad as what your family suffered through, but thoroughly frightening just the same.

I was very fortunate to stumble across a demonologist in Indiana who had trained under the Warrens, and his help was invaluable. So I had very high hopes that the hearing would work out in your favour, and as I sad, I'm just so happy that it did.

I hope those of your family who are united in this remain strong, and never stop standing up for the truth.

Bless you all!
Wendy

Thank you Wendy,
It has been a Horrible time with what Carl and his P.R. Man did.
I dont want to use his real name so I will refer to him as DICK ZUCKER. He was the mastermind behind the whole scam.
Trust me when I tell you they will be getting what the deserve in the end. the Lord will see to it.

God Bless

Alan Glatzel