Post details: The Devil Busted In Connecticut

01/18/08

The Devil Busted In Connecticut

The Devil Busted In Connecticut is an article, and interview with the author of the book that tells the true story behind the Devil in Connecticut book, and the side of the story that Carl and David Glatzel Jr. feel the public needs to know about.

For those that are not familiar with the Glatzels here is a news snippet in regards to their lawsuit naming famed Ghost Hunter Lorrainne Warren:

DANBURY, CT: A major lawsuit is pending against world famous ghost-buster Lorraine Warren of Monroe, Connecticut, for her involvement in the authoring of the book, The Devil in Connecticut, originally published by Bantam Books in 1983. The book details the supposed case of demonic possession of an 11 year old boy which lead to the much publicized “demon murder” stabbing death of forty-year old Alan Bono by nineteen year old Arne Cheyenne Johnson in Brookfield, Connecticut in 1981. Carl Glatzel Jr. and David Glatzel of Brookfield are suing Warren, along with author Gerald Brittle, IUniverse.com, the agency who recently republished the book, and the William Morris Agency of New York, who represents both Warren and Brittle. Other charges and defendants are expected to follow.

According to Glatzel’s attorney, Greg T. Nolan of Febbroriello, Conti, and Levy Law Firm of Torrington, Connecticut, both Warren, Brittle, and their agencies are facing several charges including invasion of the right to privacy, libel, and intentional affliction of emotional distress for the supposed false information contained in the book, The Devil in Connecticut, which was reprinted by IUniverse.com in 2006 without the Glatzel’s knowledge or consent. According to Carl Glatzel Jr., who was sixteen at the time, and other members of his family, his younger brother David suffered from a mental illness that Lorraine Warren and her late husband, Ed, who died in August of 2006, diagnosed as “demonic possession.” The Roman Catholic Church, under advice and consult of the Warrens, attempted four minor rites of exorcism on the young boy in 1980 to rid him of “forty-two demons,” all of which were failures. The Warrens also claimed in the book that Carl Jr. was ‘oppressed by demons’ and they used him “as a pawn to instigate violence and arouse skepticism.” The Warrens’ concluded that a ‘Satanic death curse was placed on both the Glatzel boys."

Full Article Here

I hope this lawsuit serves as a warning to any potential ghost buster who may take advantage of children as this lawsuit alleges in my opinion.

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Comment from: lance willis [Visitor] Email
You, like many others, have been taken in by this scam. What you have posted is a bogus press release put on the internet by the so-called victim. As the other memebers of his family have since made clear, Carl and David Glatzel
have devised a get rich quick scheme
by suing everybody associated with the book because they were written out of the film contract. It is known as a conspiracy to commit fraud and is currently under investigation by the Connecticut State Police. It should also be mentioned that Carl Glatzel is a apparently a career criminal and this is not his first attempt at public fraud. The upshot is that the book is true and these guys are just a couple of digital liars.
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/08 @ 15:17
Comment from: Craig Leslie [Visitor] Email · http://www.redpatchboys.ca
^ And I'm sure you'll be more than willing to back up that accusation with some evidence such as a court docket.
PermalinkPermalink 01/19/08 @ 17:11
Comment from: Sue [Member] Email · http://seminars.torontoghosts.org/
Craig -> I guess we must wait for the court proceedings. I don't think you will get an answer on this one.
PermalinkPermalink 01/20/08 @ 21:00
Comment from: Dan [Visitor] Email
many other cases are also being looked into, the Maurice case in Ma. is just one, I think a Big surprise is going to come out on this one, watch and see.....
PermalinkPermalink 01/24/08 @ 08:39
Comment from: carl glatzel [Visitor] Email
This person lance willis likes to hide behide a pc and i like the part how the state police is looking in to this (fraud)what a lie. and the part david and i where written out of the film contract. not true we have the papers to prove it can't forget the part am A CAREER CRIMINAL again a lie (you people) you know who you are get a life and every one else can ck out www.geocities.com/devilbustedinct the law suit is there to ck out thank you carl glatzel
PermalinkPermalink 02/07/08 @ 22:55
Comment from: Tom Thumb [Visitor]
Carl Glatzel is known around CT as a scumbag in every sense of the word. He's white teash and so is the rest of his family. Fortunate enough for he ans his brother, the time has come where they can make some money. Good for you guys....you were such victims and all
PermalinkPermalink 02/13/08 @ 19:42
Comment from: carl glatzel [Visitor] Email
thank you for all the nice compliments.this is exactly what we are talking about we are not here to sling mud.but there are a few jealous people(we know who you are tom thumb)we are not going to continue to write negative things back and forth.this is a story about the truth.and not lies like you once told.craig leslie made a comment are you willing to back up your accusations?we are. oh by the way the trial will be starting soon i am sure you will be there and you will have a nice surprise.(the trains a comin so get off the tracks)thank you ,carl,david glatzel
PermalinkPermalink 02/14/08 @ 13:36
Comment from: Alan Glatzel [Visitor] Email
Just an update for you all yes the lawsuit is a big scam I'am related to Carl Glatel he is my older brother . he came to my house in NC
and begged me to sign on to this lawsuit he said and I quote all you have to do is say the it never happened and the warrens made it all up and we can get $15,million.
I told him, he is insane and never come back to my house. then his attorney tried to threaten me and I told him I would turn him over to the CT bar assoc. and I havent heard from him either.

Alan Glatzel
PermalinkPermalink 02/24/08 @ 16:45
Comment from: Sue [Member] Email · http://seminars.torontoghosts.org/
Alan -> So are you stating that your younger "brother" was possessed by demons????
PermalinkPermalink 02/24/08 @ 21:04
Comment from: Alan Glatzel [Visitor] Email
Yes he was !!!!
Carls attorney, went on to say he suffered delusions and seizures
But never said the name of a docter or a medical treatment did they?
but when Carl did a radio show on the subject he could not anwser the questions because they made it up .
In the most current reports wrote by Francis Richards (real name) Corey Francis onwer of CGFX LLC. a company
Carl Glatzel and Corey Francis formed
with the intent to commit this type of fraud. it now reads David was doing it for attention.
they changed the story as time goes on look it up its on the web.
PermalinkPermalink 02/25/08 @ 07:17
Comment from: Judith Glatzel [Visitor] Email
This is Judith Glatzel. I am Alans mother.I am sorry the whole world has to know are personal business.Alan please just stop the lies you write on the computer. If any one is possessed you are.Please do not call or ever come here again as long as you live after what you have done.Your father and I are sick over this and you just wont stop.We trusted our children and look what you have done.We were all hoodwinked by ed and lorraine and you and Debbie are doing the lying for lorraine and you know it and we know you stole jasons life insurance policy too.You trying to protect a murderer.You are sick so please just stop it. How much more can you hurt our family.You, Debbie and Cheyenne and your children are never welcome here again and we don’t want to see your faces ever again as long as you live.Stop the lies Alan.I hope everyone knows what you have done. The courts will show the truth.And yes Alan this is your mother and you are a troublemaker and a liar and no longer part of this family. Thank you, Judith Glatzel.
PermalinkPermalink 02/25/08 @ 20:37
Comment from: carl glatzel [Visitor] Email
this is getting to be really sick and am sorry the people that read this has to see it but it is what it is .and yes my mom has her own email now. im sure alan what going to write that is not her but it is. what my mother said is true and the court will prove it.what alan said before is a LIE.ALL OF IT.yes i was at his house but i was working clearing his back yard and have the pictures to prove it (witch he has never paid me for but he dont tell you THAT!) and keep in mine debbie is p*****off that they are not getting nothing no more for the book or movie deal and that is why there is all the mud sling going on . in the END EVERYONE will see. (THE TRAINS A COMIN SO GET OFF THE TRACKS) CARL GLATZEL
PermalinkPermalink 02/25/08 @ 21:41
Comment from: Alan Glatzel [Visitor] Email
To the readers of this website My Mother Judith Glatzel did not write that article. she does not even own a computer .nor does she even know how to turn one on. what you were reading was a letter written by Carl or Corey. I 'am going to testify in court on behalf of Lorraine Warren
Ed and Lorriane never harmed our family when the book was orginally written my parents signed contracts and releases for said book to be published. It is and always will be a True story .the questions I brought up on my last post where never answered where they? I would be happy to prove it by taking a polygraph test.
Why doesnt someone ask Carl or Corey to do the same . I sure they will decline. And as Carl would say THE TRAINS A COMIN SO GET OFF THE TRACKS) Carl Just make sure your on train and its a one way ticket ....
PermalinkPermalink 02/26/08 @ 10:58
Comment from: Rosh Kadosh [Visitor] Email
It appears someone is doing a bit of Ghost writing under the assumed alias of "Judith Glatzel". I find it highly improbable that she found this obscure forum and posted precisely 1 Hour and 4 minutes before you.
PermalinkPermalink 03/03/08 @ 00:58
Comment from: Sue [Member] Email · http://seminars.torontoghosts.org/
Rosh -> To the best of our knowledge these people including Judith are using valid email addresses not hotmail etc which are easy to set-up by anyone. I cannot help, but think that this whole affair is rather sad, and a blot on research, and investigation. We will see what the courts decide.
PermalinkPermalink 03/03/08 @ 07:15
Comment from: Dan [Visitor] Email
Again this is the same as many others the Warrens investigated, the Maurice case in Ma. is a prime example. The Roman Catholic Church has never worked with the Warrens. They used Robert McKenna a Catholic priest that left the chuch before he was deflocked after vatican II. The Warrens are FRAUDS that did everything for money. They cornered the paranormal field, like Barnun and Baily did with their circus.
PermalinkPermalink 03/03/08 @ 09:16
Comment from: Vivek C. [Visitor]
I agree with Rosh and his remark about how unrealistice it is for Judith to respond to a forum on a random website. It's also entertaining to see the poor quality of writing coming from Carl, followed by a response from "Judith" written equally as poor (just a coincidence right? Wouldn't be Carl writing that.) Parents don't usually use internet forums to cut realations with their family.

The only one posessed here is Carl thinking that it's ok to write "THE TRAINS A COMIN SO GET OFF THE TRACKS" more than one time. Carl, you are a scum bag! Your dysfunctional is going to continue to become more and more dysfunctional, and this is the way to do it. You are owed something, that is for certain. It isn't a few million though. You're a white trash mess and this idea/scam/skeam will not work. Your side of the story is as unrealistic as the original story itself. However, this is a great plan for your whole family to make a bigger mess out of a washed up story.

And it amazes me that you had not read that book until now, being a novel about your family. That says something right there.

V.C.
PermalinkPermalink 03/05/08 @ 12:18
Comment from: Todd [Visitor] Email
If you do a google search on Carl+Glatzel this site shows up in the top two search items so it is not as obscure as those who might hate Carl would like.
PermalinkPermalink 03/05/08 @ 12:48
Comment from: pokas75 [Visitor] Email
Did anyone stop to think that Carl was with his mother? It says right there in the article he lives there. Phony or not...people here set quite a poor example of what dysfucntion really is.
PermalinkPermalink 03/05/08 @ 15:47
Comment from: Vivek C. [Visitor]
Maybe the two are living together. I still have little belief that a mother is going to cut ties with her son on a public forum.

Carl is quoted in many articles as saying his family was dysfuctional, and a family in court with one another equals dysfunctional to me. Poor example nothing.

PermalinkPermalink 03/06/08 @ 09:35
Comment from: Chris Guasco [Visitor]
I once saw a Ed Warren wearing a Ghost Busters shirt. I thought that was a little bit strange.
PermalinkPermalink 03/07/08 @ 10:56
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PermalinkPermalink 03/08/08 @ 23:44
Comment from: Pauline [Visitor] Email
After reading all the blogs and messages Carl Glatzel and his boyfriend Corey Francis? have plastered all over the internet, it is clear their whole act is a scam. Someone somewhere called Glatzel a "professional victim", and that's exactly what's going on here. On the other hand, reading all these rantings and ravings and over-the-top accusations put out by this pair, I think it's pretty probable we're dealing with people who might well be mentally ill, and the best thing would be to ignore them. From what I can tell Carl seems pretty unstable, while his friend or collaborator is just exploiting him. Which makes the idea of them doing this for money make total sense. As for Lorraine Warren, I have read in at least a dozen places that she absolutely denies being a demonologist and claims to only be a psychic instead. Furthermore, the fact that she is (allegedly) represented by the William Morris Agency only lends credibility to her. After twenty or thirty years in this business, you'd expect her to be with the best. If she was a fake or a fraud they would have dropped her like a hot rock. In fact if you asked, you'd probably find out that Lorraine Warren is the victim of two or three 'celebrity scams' a year and what's being put out here is just the latest one.
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/08 @ 17:23
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor] Email
Excuse me, but who are the authors of this book? Sure seems like that's calling yourself a demonologist to me!
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/08 @ 17:43
Comment from: Brian Danielson [Visitor] Email
What about the books The Demonologist and Werewolf: A story of demonic possession where, in both books, both Ed and Lorraine are described as demonologists. There is probebly more but those are the only two on my bookshelf.
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/08 @ 17:55
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor] Email
Heh. I was thinking, Sue and Matthew from this blog are really well known in paranormal circles in Canada and I know they did some TV and radio shows. Are they listed with a talent agency? I thought all you needed to be listed with an agency was bookings to make them money? Doesn't William Morris still have Vaudville animal acts on their lists?
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/08 @ 18:10
Comment from: carl glatzel [Visitor] Email
as i said before this is what they (alan,debbie,lorraine etc.) are trying to do turn this whole thing into a circus talking bad about me saying my mom dont have an email let it go. just make SURE you guys are there for court "if you all have proof dont worry about it " but.....i know you dont and all the negative stuff you write will be taken with a grain of salt. this will be the last post i write till court. you know what i always say at the end of my post....but instead of getting off the tracks. please stay on them. let the train do its job.....
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/08 @ 22:01
Comment from: Pauline [Visitor]
Such desperate talk.
Very tragic. Very sad.
I stick with what I said in the first place.
Goodbye.
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/08 @ 22:30
Comment from: Penelope Anne [Visitor] Email · http://cafeendofuniverse.blogspot.com/
Matt and Sue I love you more than ever, I have been into ghost stories, and seeking truth not fiction since as long as I can remember.
I have only this to say on the above...The Warren's have cast many a shadow of doubt upon their work over the years and I would be hesitant to trust their views on anything without additional reinforcing proof.
Just my views.
You have a new reader on this blog.
PermalinkPermalink 03/10/08 @ 08:32
Comment from: Andy [Visitor] Email · http://spicycauldron.com
I think anyone entering into a courtroom battle, whether to defend or accuse, would be well advised by any lawyer NOT to indulge in flame-baiting exercises online, but to instead keep their hands away from keyboards and save it for the judge to hear. Anything written online can potentially jeopardise the outcome of a legal action, and can most certainly be brought into it as evidence.

Sue and Matthew went to great pains in the original report about simply to do just that - report, and not express opinion. They've continued in the comments to exercise far more care than evidenced by some other posters, irrespective of who those other posters may or may not be.

I'm personally far more horrified by the rampant poor grammar and spelling in some of the comments above than I am by the tales being told, which are starting to look like script proposals for a crossover between 'The X Files' and 'The Jerry Springer Show'.

I thought the moderator intervention - presumably because an offensive, ugly comment was posted - was great, the best of its kind I've ever seen: clear, confident and with just the right wording for a put-down of those who can't be civil and resort to foul language and name-calling.

Great job, Sue and Matthew, of both reportage and intervention when necessary. x
PermalinkPermalink 03/10/08 @ 09:49
I feel the readers of this forum
Would benefit from this. it is taken From CBS News not the X Files or Jerry Springer

(CBS) The Catholic Church has always believed in the idea of demonic possession -- of the fight, within the individual, between good and evil, says CBS News correspondent Mark Phillips.

The ancient ritual of trying to drive evil spirits formtortured souls was dramatically portrayed by Hollywood in "The Exorcist."

The Church, Phillips points out, would rather such graphic religious experiences took place privately.

When one Archbishop, Emanuel Malingo, began holding increasingly popular public exorcisms, the Vatican made him stop. The exorcism scenes weren't pretty, Phillips observes.

There is evidence, though, that the practice of exorcism is experiencing a revival, according to the Washington Post.

Particularly, says Phillips, among the faithful in Poland, so many of whom came to Rome to mourn the death of Pope John Paul II. Demand for exorcism has apparently risen so high, 70 priests now perform the rite there, double the number of five years ago. And the Church is planning a dedicated exorcism center.

Some blame the demand on the residue of the communist years. Father Jerome Hall, of the Washington Theological Union, says, "Once the oppressive regime falls, there's still a residue of pain, of betrayal, of anxiety, of evil. ... Some people who grew up in Eastern Europe would say, 'That's no wonder.' "

But numbers are said to be up elsewhere, as well, reports Phillips. In Italy, 350 trained exorcists are now working. There were only 20 ten years ago.

Italian exorcist Father Gabriele Nanni says, "For the sinners, who want to conquer entities or the devil himself, for them, the situation is very dangerous."

Even in the United States, Phillips notes, one-in-ten Catholics, according to a recent survey, now says they've either submitted to or witnessed an exorcism.

For many, it seems, the ancient battle between good and evil continues today, Phillips concludes.

What's behind the apparent rise in exorcisms?

Father Thomas Williams, Dean of Theology at the Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University in Rome and a CBS News religion consultant, told co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez on The Early Show Tuesday, "There may be two reasons. One is that there's increased interest in the occult, even in Satanism. Where I live in Italy, Satanic worship is actually on the rise. And this is true in a lot of places in Europe. And the second reason I think is because people are less careful. Honestly, they maybe pray less. They play around with things they shouldn't play with, and then they get into trouble. ... Anyone can be possessed, but I think you really have to open yourself up to it. You have to be un-careful. And I think the spiritual demons, or bad angels, do exist, and I think it's an extreme thing, but it happens sometimes.

How do you know that the person is possessed, and you're not just dealing with a psychological problem?

"Well," Williams responded, "that's the biggest challenge we have. Because obviously, many things that in the past that were considered demonic possession or demonic influence were really just diseases or psychological problems. So, priests work closely with psychologists to try to ascertain the real nature of the pathology or of the problem before performing an exorcism. But prayer never hurts. So if you're just praying for a person, you're not gonna do them any damage."

There are specific signs that a person is possessed, Williams continued; "Three typical signs are speaking strange languages, a language a person's never had any access to whatsoever, and they just become fluent in it. And often accompanied by a change of voice that doesn't even sound like the person. Another is knowledge of secret things. For example, saying things that the person has no way of knowing. And a third is superhuman strength, the ability to lift objects and move things."

What's the process of exorcism like? Is it similar to what the movie portrayed?

"Well, it's similar," Williams replied. "It's mostly based on prayer and reading of sacred scripture, but there are other things used like holy water, a crucifix, etc. It's a long process. It begins with simply praying over the person and asking the person to pray with you. Often, they won't; if there really is some sort of demonic presence there, they will not do that. It's a lot of prayer until there's some sort of manifestation on the part of the demon, if there is one.

PermalinkPermalink 03/10/08 @ 11:18
Comment from: Amy Chan [Visitor] Email
I hear that Linda Blair is testifying at the Glatzel/Warren trial.
PermalinkPermalink 03/10/08 @ 18:35
Comment from: Amy Chan [Visitor] Email
Oh yeah. National Lampoons is putting out the "Devil in Ct" film. They haven't really done much since 'Vacation 1' and I'm not expecting very much from this film either.
PermalinkPermalink 03/10/08 @ 18:41
Comment from: Amy Chan [Visitor] Email
Chevy Chase is playing Carl though.
PermalinkPermalink 03/10/08 @ 18:42
Comment from: Blake [Visitor] Email
That is true. Chevy Chase will be returning to the big screen as the infamous Carl Glatzel. Throughout the film he will be making his crazy Chevy Chase faces, which parallels the original story perfectly because we won't know if Chevy is possessed or just 'CRAZY'.

Kenny Loggins will be doing the soundtrack, in true 80s fashion. Can't wait for that.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/08 @ 09:54
Comment from: Beth [Visitor] Email
Chevy has other commitments.
Bozo does Carl.

Andy Griffith IS Ed warren.
Elvira as Lorraine for sure.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/08 @ 13:02
Comment from: David hornak [Visitor] Email
Charlotte Rae aka Mrs. Garrett, was originally cast for Lorraine Warren. Andy Dick will play each of the 43 demons. Lords knows that guy can be scary.

Danny Bonaduce was going to play Carl, but the casting crew felt that Danny wasn't quite aggressive enough.
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PermalinkPermalink 03/12/08 @ 17:16
Comment from: Alan Glatzel [Visitor] Email · http://us.geocities.yahoo.com/gb/view?member=fingerjack
Please remember what you are seeing is coming directly from them.
Here is more from the dynamic duo

First Name : carl
URL :
Comment : Hey C***knocker nice job lets sink all there ships. The train is coming so get off the tracks .
Sounds like revenge and deception
not a victim and his author
PermalinkPermalink 03/12/08 @ 21:10
Comment from: Beth [Visitor]
Wow.
That's pretty damning stuff.
Where did you get it ?
If it's true you just proved their whole act really is a scam.
They're outright liars.
What's a Corey?
PermalinkPermalink 03/12/08 @ 23:15
Comment from: sb [Visitor] Email
As someone who is a member of a board that Carl & his author post at often I feel I am lucky enough to know quite a bit about what is going on in this situation.

First of all if you read the letter above it says & I quote:

"Carl figures that if
everyone is going to get rich off a lie based on him, not
only is he going to play hardball and do everything in his
power to expose it all, but he rightfully wishes to make
money as well, as he know realizes after reading the book how
many jobs he has lost over the last two decades once people
learned his last name and his relation to the DEMON MURDER
CASE."

That does not say that it is all about the "money". It says he wants to expose the truth and also get what he deserves after what has been done to him & his name.

What I actually find most amusing about the rants and mudslinging ALAN GLATZEL keeps posting about Carl and his author is he NEVER mentions that his brother David, you know the one who was supposedly possessed by 42 demons is an EQUAL part of the lawsuit.

Also that the basis of the lawsuit is about invasion of privacy & slander. From what I have read Carl & David approached all the defendents of the lawsuit and simply requested their (Carl & David) right to privacy & stop using their names in books, lectures, DVD's and in a possible upcoming motion picture. Only when this request was denied they went forth with a lawsuit. How else were they suppose to stop the story that they say is not true & quite frankly is not something I think anyone would want being said about them? Please remember if this was a get rich quick scam all Carl & David had to do was sign on the dotted line for a movie! Not go through a court battle. Make sense??????

Looks to me that if Alan is right & it is all a scam then he has nothing to worry about and should stop acting like a child bringing a family fued into blog's like this and let the courts decide.
PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 07:01
Comment from: sb [Visitor] Email
Oh yes, one more thing if I did not make it clear in my original post. In Carl & David's initial request of having their right to privacy be upheld they were essentially asking the people who HAVE BEEN making money off their names for over two decades to stop making money off their names. Big surprise that they were denied!

Second thing for all you intelligent readers to think about, if Carl & David Glatzel refused to sign on the dotted line for a major motion picture that would essentially make them rich, that left a few Glatzel's who wouldn't get the chance to sign their names. If you know what I am saying...
PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 07:30
Comment from: John Michael [Visitor] Email
Oh yeah. I'm sure that's why he lost so many jobs - because his family was once involved in a case of supposed possession. Wouldn't have anything to do with his way of handling business, would it?
PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 09:53
Comment from: Alan Glatzel [Visitor] Email · http://us.geocities.yahoo.com/gb/view?member=fingerjack
This is for (sb) I do not sling mud I'm exposing the truth. There is a difference... please review the following quotes Made by Corey

to play hardball and do everything in his
power to expose it all, but he rightfully wishes to make
money as well, as he know realizes after reading the book how
many jobs he has lost over the last two decades (please see State of CT website) public record

(http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DspParty.asp)


I am a social worker and amateur magician
in CT. ( I guess twisting a balloon into a poodle makes you a (paranormal researcher)


However, no one knows my true identity at this time (What is he hiding)





Carl has his lawyers ready, and I convinced him that this
time that the lunacy that the Warrens call their ‘work’ needs
to be exposed ( Its good to see corey controlling carl?) some would say exploiting him



While I am not a published author or professional writer,
(well at least thats true)
Carl Jr., who I find to be a honest and decent man has
already made it clear to them in negotiations that I will be
his author regardless of what they say or offer.

Corey I can see you want money clearly in this quote.
Thanks for making it so plain



Looks to me that if Alan is right & it is all a scam then he has nothing to worry about (I'm Not worried)
and should stop acting like a child bringing a family fued into blog's like this and let the courts decide

If telling the truth is acting like a child then I guess I will always be a kid at Heart
PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 10:19
Comment from: sb [Visitor] Email
Alan,

I am having a hard time figuring out what truth you are trying to expose.

Let's see:


"I am a social worker and amateur magician
in CT. ( I guess twisting a balloon into a poodle makes you a (paranormal researcher)"

In all the information I have read on this matter I have NEVER come across Mr. Richards calling himself "a paranormal researcher" Can you show me where he has? He has never called himself anything but the writer for the book project and a friend to Carl, David and your parents. And making fun of his being an amatuer magician has nothing to do with this.



"Carl has his lawyers ready, and I convinced him that this
time that the lunacy that the Warrens call their ‘work’ needs
to be exposed ( Its good to see corey controlling carl?) some would say exploiting him"

If convincing someone of something that many people believe to be the case (i.e. the Warren's "work" being not so believable) is controlling them, Damn I guess we could say you are "controlling" or trying to "exploit" some people here too.




"However, no one knows my true identity at this time (What is he hiding)"

As he stated in his letter that you conviently left out, he chose a pen name as he has a family and is concerned for their well being. I completely respect his wishes. Being the "good Christian" you claim to be I would hope you would have done the same.



"While I am not a published author or professional writer,
(well at least thats true)
Carl Jr., who I find to be a honest and decent man has
already made it clear to them in negotiations that I will be
his author regardless of what they say or offer.

Corey I can see you want money clearly in this quote.
Thanks for making it so plain"



Alan, until someone has their first book published they are not a professional writer. Every writer is an unpublished writer at some point. And every book writer expects to get paid for their work. So what is your point?


My point is to say this. The point of the lawsuit is right to privacy & slander.

So let's just use a hypothectical story here to get my point across.

Alan, let's say I want to publish a story, make a movie, do lectures, etc...stating that you are gay for instance. I have other members of your family who will also say you are gay, even other people who have known you. These people even say they have witnessed things that would prove you are gay, although there is really no way to prove that they did in fact see anything. You wouldn't want that story to come out.
It wouldn't matter if you are gay or not.

Without your consent I have no right to publish a book, make a movie or lecture upon the subject of you being gay using your real name & calling it a true story. And if I did it anyway you would have every right to sue me.

The same goes for your brother's. It really doesn't matter if the Devil was in Connecticut or not. Your brother's have every right to not want their names being used in a story that they claim is untrue. And quite honestly shame on you for not being there for your brother's in this matter, if you have nothing to lose by them chosing to want to keep their privacy. Even if David was possessed & Carl was oppressed and the Warren's made them all better, they wanted to put it behind them and be left alone. Sadly the people who wanted to continue to make money off them made that impossible.












PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 12:27
Comment from: Jane [Visitor] Email
SB, or Carl, or Francis, whatever you name is.
Credibility of the witness and the accuser is the issue as I see, reading through it. And yes, in every form, calling oneself a magician when they are a balloon clown isn't helping ones credibility now is it?

Looks like a career criminal look for easy gravy here in this lawsuit. Ambulance chaser and the likes of these people should themselves all be sued or jailed.
PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 12:56
Comment from: Alan Glatzel [Visitor] Email · http://us.geocities.yahoo.com/gb/view?member=fingerjack
SB) Pen name Corey or Francis
Whatever PC your hiding behind
Your becoming more and more Transparent. That's the important thing.
All I have done is exposed the truth.
And in respect to your latest quote
Also note you used the word we in your quote. showing that your not an individual writing a blog
Transparency seems to be the only trick your good at

Damn I guess we could say you are "controlling" or trying to "exploit" some people here too.
But you see I'm not the one trying to commit fraud or make millions here am I .
As a matter of fact I have never made a penny off of this story .
Nor do I care to. Its about a true story and I want all readers to know that. No one in the world ever knew who Carl Glatzel was until you tagged every paranormal web site in the world. with the intend to Smear the Warrens. Helping to fuel your lawsuit. Its very sad to see you stoop to these levels . I also had a chance to view your parody on the Warrens . Talk about childish huh?
I guess when all of your work is based on LIES you do need to try to cover your tracks don't you.

PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 13:49
Comment from: Pauline [Visitor]
All this presumes that the case is a lie.
I'm not convinced that's true.
I think the lie is coming from the other side. Big time.
If you look at it clearly, it is almost impossible for this case to be a hoax.
All you have is one big over-the-top accusation from one "disaffected" member of the family vs the real facts.
To begin with, it was the family who released this story to the press in the first place.
And when they did the Church was right there in the middle of it and at least two of the priests were in the papers back then admitting it was true. I know, I lived in Ridgefield at the time. I remember.
After that hundreds of reporters from all over the world came to Connecticut and there was a sharkfeed over this story that lasted for over a year both in the newspapers and on television. And every one of them tried to poke holes in the case back then and couldn't.
After that came a tell-all book from a major publisher that was based (allegedly) on first person interviews taken directly from the family involved - plus others.
After that major television shows were done on the case, some of which even featured members of Carl's family insisting over and over again in full color that these events actually happened. And never once, in all this time, did anyone involved in the case ever object to its airing. Or contradict themselves, or ever hint any falsity was involved.
But MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, it is too much of a stretch to believe that the law departments of all these big newspapers, of all these tv stations and their news departments, of all these publishers, and of all these major television networks, would have let this story go by if even one sentence of it was untrue. It just doesn't happen. None of them are stupid, and none of them are kind. They may make mistakes once in a while ... but not all of them at the same time about the very same story. It just doesn't wash. I don't care what the story was about, someone, somewhere, would have caught it. And to this very moment not one of them has caught it.
So in the end what you really have is the world press, major television networks, major publishers, major law departments, Carls own family, the Warrens, the author, and even the Catholic Church, backing the truth of the case, versus ONE lone member of the family (with a very shady reputation) suddenly claiming the case is untrue, and then for money. Something fishy here! Especially given the links his very own brother just posted, which show IN THEIR OWN WORDS that the whole thing is a deliberate premeditated scam. Sorry Carl, but 'you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.' The joke is over. You lose.
PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 14:02
Comment from: Jane [Visitor] Email
The huge problem with America is that anyone can take a gamble and sue another, yet only be out attorney fees (if that), if it fails. How about a loser pays all system? That would add more RISK to these types of frivolous law-suites, and suddenly the attorneys and the gold digging clients they represent will actually have something heavy to lose. Maybe just maybe they will think before taking a risk they themselves can lose on big time. So our society has created these criminals, who will apparently turn on their own family members in seeking their fortunes.

Also, I think the ones accused should counter sue to make an example of these people.
What are they expecting? To land millions in court from Lorrianes a "non-profit" org? Or a best selling book.

Heres a thought boys:
"Try to get money the old fashioned way. Honesty and hard work, not at the expense of others like some street gangsta."


PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 14:32
Comment from: Todd [Visitor] Email
Has anyone here thought that no matter who wants to make money off of who, sane people have not believed in devils since the middle ages.

That is why major papers do not cover this lawsuit in my opinion. Who cares, most grown-up people laugh at the idea of demon possession.

The vast majority do not even know who the Warrens are unless they are into paranormal research and even then most everyone under 50 follows TAPS, which are nothing like the Warrens again in my opinion.

Let the law decide this case.

PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 14:48
Comment from: Louis W. [Visitor]
Magician?
Where I come from that's code for satanist.
So here we have, together, a probable satanist + someone from a possessed family.
Together they constanly make accusations.
The Bible tells us the devil is both an accuser and a liar.
Practically every post about this case uses the word "lie" in it or is full of accusations.
If you ask me (and I happen to be sane Todd) the devil in connecticut is alive and well and speaking through these two.
PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 15:51
Comment from: sb [Visitor] Email
Alan,

"SB) Pen name Corey or Francis
Whatever PC your hiding behind
Your becoming more and more Transparent. That's the important thing."

Please do not insult the intelligence of the readers here by acusing anyone who contridicts you and pokes holes in your claims as being Carl, Mr. Francis or anyone else.

I am not and never have been anyone mentioned above. Nor have I ever met any member of the Glatzel family or Mr. Richards. I have simply had the pleasure of engaging in mature and intelligent chat with them at another forum and have familiarized myself with the Devil Busted in Connecticut Website.


"Also note you used the word we in your quote. showing that your not an individual writing a blog"

When I said "we" I was referring to those of us who are reading this blog, not that I am more than one person. Although I have wished I could be two places at one time before, we all know that is not humanly possible.

As for the rest of what you said, it makes no sense to me so I have nothing to reply about it.

Alan, I think it is obvious that we are just going to have to agree to disagree as you really have nothing to say that makes any of your accusations against myself, both your brother's or Mr. Francis true. I am happy to hear that you do not want to make a penny off this story because quite honestly with David and Carl putting the brakes on any further use of their names in any form of media it looks like you never will.

So I wish you the best of luck in your crusade and I will anxiously await what the courts decide.

Take care & God Bless.





PermalinkPermalink 03/13/08 @ 17:57
Comment from: Beth [Visitor]
Take care & God Bless.

How phony can you get?
PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 00:30
Comment from: Dan [Visitor] Email
I've been tracking and following the Warrens work since the early 70's. Ed and Lorraine picked up in the paranormal world, where Barnum and Bailey left off, with the circus circuit. They exploited for money, nothing more nothing less, and they continue to, today. Reserve your seat today for Lorraines Halloween dinner, only $90.00 per seat, and you get to hear the same old cases from the 60's and 70's, nothing ever new. You can visit their museum in the basement for $35.00 per shot, but dont touch anything you might take a visitor home, they claim. You might want to double check the museum, I think I heard their nephew, John Zaffis, took over as curator.As far as the exorcisms, I have seen many of their tapes and a 7th grade drama class could put on a better show. The Catholic Church has NEVER worked with the Warrens, they use self appointed Bishops that left the Catholic Church, Robert McKenna, Rev. Moon, etc. etc. This case is going to expose the scams the Warrens employed to exploit scared souls looking for any type of help, Mark my words.......Dont bother checking out the Warrens web site, they shut it down,EXCEPT, unless you want to book a presentation or want to buy tickets to one of thier Haunted circle jerks..........
PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 08:51
Comment from: Kevin Bacon [Visitor] Email
I heard that the devil also has a lawsuit against the Warrens. He’ll be in court with his lawyer as well. Oh wait. I forgot. The devil doesn’t exist you idiots!
PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 09:34
Comment from: Kevin Bacon [Visitor] Email
I’d imagine since Photoshop is now available to the masses, the Warrens don’t turn many heads when presenting their manipulated photographs at seminars. The Civil War soldier was always a favorite. I believe that’s done using the stamp tool.
PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 09:40
Comment from: Kevin B. [Visitor] Email
The Bacon's comin' so get off the tracks!
PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 09:43
Comment from: Pauline [Visitor]
To sb:

Just writing a book does not make you an author.
Integrity goes with it.
Pimping a lie for Carl Glatzel lacks integrity.
Pimping a lie off of someone else work also makes you a criminal.
"Mr. Francis," and all the other personalities he's displayed on this website, suffers from delusions of grandeur.
He, like all the other 'authors' of his stature, will eventually wind up in a cage, where he belongs.

PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 12:34
Comment from: Sue [Member] Email · http://seminars.torontoghosts.org/
Actually our logs track all IP numbers and sb has not posted under other names here.

We do know when people are posting from the same computer with different names, and providing different email addresses, and in all fairness that is not the case with sb.

Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.


PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 12:45
Comment from: Alan Glatzel [Visitor] Email
Pauline,

Very True , I'm glad to see readers speaking the truth. seeing them for what they really are.
fraud, scam artist char·la·tan
1 : QUACK 2
2 : one making usually showy pretenses to knowledge or ability : FRAUD , FAKER

PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 12:48
Comment from: Dan [Visitor] Email
Watch Out for the Warren Family & Followers......Google: John Zaffis, David Considine(youll love this one, it has Haunted Bus Rides), and most of all Tony Spera, the Son-in-Law...............I wouldnt have this crew investigate a "Haunted Hemorrhoid" your A** may never come back, unless you PAY A PRICE......
PermalinkPermalink 03/14/08 @ 13:55
Comment from: Matthew James Didier [Visitor] Email · http://www.doubledeckerbuses.org/blog/